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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Boeing's Starliner took two astronauts up to the ISS on June 5. I think the mission was to last 2 weeks?

    Helium leaks have plagued the Starliner and have made maneuvering the craft difficult, if not impossible. Most recent news is that the mission has been "extended" to mid-July.

    https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/how-boeings-starliner-can-bring-its-astronauts-back-earth-2024-06-24/

    Word is that SpaceX is preparing a rescue.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      Could make for a good SNL skit. As their (return) flight keeps getting delayed, the incumbent astronauts on the ISS start hiding 'the good food' from the visiting astronauts and it gets dramatic.

      Getting back in the Starliner for a return trip to earth does not give me the warm and fuzzies. How nervous would you be?

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/07/26/boeing-starliner-astronauts-stuck-orbit-space-station/

        bits from the article

        Weightlessness is a joy, especially after astronauts adapt and fly around the station with ease. “Gravity sucks. It’s horrible,” veteran NASA astronaut Sandy Magnus once said.

        But despite the wonders of whizzing around the globe at 17,500 mph, experiencing a sunrise every 90 minutes and seeing entire continents in your field of view, space can get old. Even the most hardened astronauts get homesick. The station can feel cramped. Going to the bathroom, a delicate procedure involving suction, is unpleasant. And the lack of gravity makes astronauts feel constantly congested as fluids shift in their bodies.

        “I think the perfect space mission is probably about a month because it gives you enough time to start feeling normal, and then you would go home,” Scott Kelly, the former NASA astronaut who spent nearly a year on the space station, said in an interview.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/08/yes-nasa-really-could-bring-starliners-astronauts-back-on-crew-dragon/

          One informed source said it was greater than a 50-50 chance that the crew would come back on (Spacex's) Dragon. Another source said it was significantly more likely than not they would. To be clear, NASA has not made a final decision. This probably will not happen until at least next week. It is likely that Jim Free, NASA's associate administrator, will make the call.

          Asked if it was now more likely than not that Starliner's crew would return on Dragon, NASA spokesperson Josh Finch told Ars on Thursday evening, " NASA is evaluating all options for the return of agency astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams from the International Space Station as safely as possible. No decisions have been made and the agency will continue to provide updates on its planning."

          My understanding is that there are two docking locations on the ISSS. One of them has a Dragon already docked. It is a "lifeboat" in case of a catastrophic event on the ISSS. The other one is occupied by Starliner.

          That's awkward.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            I wonder if the helium leak continues.

            If so, the longer they wait the lower the helium level.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #6

              Saw a rumor that the "Starliner" is beyond repair, and arrangements are being made with SpaceX to return the astronauts.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                Boeing. A victim of DEI and corporate culture.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  NASA

                  The good news: "We have a plan for getting you back home."

                  The bad news: "Looks like your 8 day mission is going to last (checks iPad) 8 months."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    Elon Musk comments, down thread..."Yeah."

                    All you need to know....

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      spacex to the rescue:

                      https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-08-24/spacex-to-return-boeings-starliner-astronauts-from-space-next-year-nasa-says

                      Two NASA astronauts who flew to the International Space Station in June aboard Boeing's faulty Starliner capsule will need to return to Earth on a SpaceX vehicle early next year, NASA said on Saturday, deeming issues with Starliner's propulsion system too risky to carry its first crew home.

                      Starliner will undock from the ISS without a crew and attempt to return to Earth as it would have with astronauts aboard.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
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                        It's time for NASA to close the DEI office.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          Sit right back and you’ll hear a tale… A tale of a fateful trip…

                          The Brad

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            So, it seems the NASA spacesuits that went up with the (cough) Starliner are NOT compatible with the SpaceX ship.

                            I've also read that undocking from the ISS, uncrewed, might be dangerous tricky.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Copper
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                              Some people think space is not easy.

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                Some people think space is not easy.

                                George KG Offline
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                                @Copper said in Stranded Astronauts:

                                Some people think space is not easy.

                                From "The Expanse."

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      @George-K said in Stranded Astronauts:

                                      IMG_4410 2.jpeg

                                      The bartender is not pleased with having just been sprayed with Modelo…

                                      The Brad

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
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                                        Coming home empty this PM.

                                        https://www.space.com/boeing-starliner-crew-flight-test-earth-return-webcast

                                        Boeing's Starliner capsule will depart the International Space Station without astronauts today (Sept. 6), and you can watch the action live.

                                        A livestream of Starliner's homecoming will begin at 5:45 p.m. EDT (2145 GMT) today, featuring the capsule's undocking at 6:04 p.m. EDT (2204 GMT). You can watch it here at Space.com, via NASA Television.

                                        Landing, at White Sands Space Harbor in New Mexico, is scheduled about six hours later, on Saturday (Sept. 7) at 12:03 a.m. EDT (0403 GMT or 10:03 p.m. local time Sept. 6). NASA will livestream that event as well, starting at 10:50 p.m. EDT (0250 GMT).

                                        I remember reading a story that this is pretty risky, considering the unreliability of the helium-powered thrusters. After all, that's why it's not coming down with a crew aboard. Concern is that this unreliability may cause damage to the ISS.

                                        Fingers crossed.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Just to think people were going to the moon 55 years ago.

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