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Wanna feel old?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Bonanza premiered 64 yrs ago.
    The Beatles split 54 yrs ago.
    Laugh-In premiered nearly 56 yrs. ago.
    The Wizard of Oz is 84 yrs old.
    Elvis is dead 46 yrs. He'd be 88 today.
    The Thriller video is 40 yrs old.
    Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin dead 53 yrs.
    John Lennon dead 43 yrs.
    Mickey Mantle retired 55 yrs ago.
    Back to the Future is 39 yrs old.
    Saturday Night Fever is 46 yrs old.
    The Ed Sullivan show ended 51 yrs ago.
    The Brady Bunch premiered 54 yrs ago.
    The triplets on My Three Sons are 54.
    Tabitha from Bewitched is 59.
    The Corvette turned 70 this year.
    The Mustang is 59.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      Bonanza premiered 64 yrs ago.

      Yeah, seems about right. I wasn’t born yet, so…

      The Beatles split 54 yrs ago.

      I wish it was 60 years ago…

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #3

        The Thriller video is 40 yrs old.

        Feels about right. I would have guessed 37…

        The Brad

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          I are old.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Back to the Future is 39 yrs old.

            We are already past the “future” Marty travelled to.

            The Brad

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              The Internet is 50 years old.
              (More accurately, the paper that lays out what became the TCP/IP foundational technology for the Internet was published 50 years ago. https://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/fall06/cos561/papers/cerf74.pdf )

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                The Internet is 50 years old.
                (More accurately, the paper that lays out what became the TCP/IP foundational technology for the Internet was published 50 years ago. https://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/fall06/cos561/papers/cerf74.pdf )

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                @Axtremus said in Wanna feel old?:

                The Internet is 50 years old.

                I got on the internet in 1993. I remember telling my mother-in-law, who passed away in 1994, that my computer could connect, via gopher and ftp, to a computer in Europe.

                She was astounded.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  #8

                  Short answer is no.

                  But I can’t help it.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                    Cellular communication is 77 years or 45 years old, depends on how you look at it.

                    An internal Bell Labs technical memo lays out a fairly complete technical concept for cellular communication in 1947 (77 years ago), but the first commercial cellular communication service was not available until 1979 (45 years ago; in Tokyo, Japan).

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                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                      And just for @LuFins-Dad …

                      “Sex reassignment surgery” is 93 years old.
                      The first documented surgery of this nature happened in 1931, in Germany.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        My Dad was on the committees that defined the standards for the US cellular network. He’s on some of the relevant patents. His first name is ‘Kenneth’ if you want to google ‘firstname lastname cellular patents’ you can find them.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          My Dad was on the committees that defined the standards for the US cellular network. He’s on some of the relevant patents. His first name is ‘Kenneth’ if you want to google ‘firstname lastname cellular patents’ you can find them.

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                          Axtremus
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                          @jon-nyc , yeap, found it. 🙂

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            My Dad was on the committees that defined the standards for the US cellular network. He’s on some of the relevant patents. His first name is ‘Kenneth’ if you want to google ‘firstname lastname cellular patents’ you can find them.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Wanna feel old?:

                            My Dad was on the committees that defined the standards for the US cellular network. He’s on some of the relevant patents. His first name is ‘Kenneth’ if you want to google ‘firstname lastname cellular patents’ you can find them.

                            He worked for Harris?

                            I've worked with a bunch of folk from their place in Rochester, NY.

                            I was only joking

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                              @Axtremus

                              Cool.

                              By the way, his father ‘Gotthard’ has patents in door and window hardware. You can find them too. There’s another man by the same name but it’s easy to tell the difference, my grandfather’s patents are from the 40s.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                @jon-nyc said in Wanna feel old?:

                                My Dad was on the committees that defined the standards for the US cellular network. He’s on some of the relevant patents. His first name is ‘Kenneth’ if you want to google ‘firstname lastname cellular patents’ you can find them.

                                He worked for Harris?

                                I've worked with a bunch of folk from their place in Rochester, NY.

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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Wanna feel old?:

                                @jon-nyc said in Wanna feel old?:

                                My Dad was on the committees that defined the standards for the US cellular network. He’s on some of the relevant patents. His first name is ‘Kenneth’ if you want to google ‘firstname lastname cellular patents’ you can find them.

                                He worked for Harris?

                                I've worked with a bunch of folk from their place in Rochester, NY.

                                He did. I went to high school there.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @jon-nyc said in Wanna feel old?:

                                  My Dad was on the committees that defined the standards for the US cellular network. He’s on some of the relevant patents. His first name is ‘Kenneth’ if you want to google ‘firstname lastname cellular patents’ you can find them.

                                  He worked for Harris?

                                  I've worked with a bunch of folk from their place in Rochester, NY.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Wanna feel old?:

                                  He worked for Harris?

                                  So Harris hired my dad because he had experience in designing central office switching systems for the telephone network. Harris wanted to sell the behind-the-scenes hardware to the carriers.

                                  They invested all this money helping define the standards so they could get a leg up on the designs. They hired my father in 1982.

                                  Fast forward a few years, the FCC decided to do a lottery to give away cellular licenses (as opposed to an auction, the other way they’ve distributed spectrum for new services). These lotteries were for licenses at local city level.

                                  The result was chaos. Mom and pop applicants won many of the lotteries. No big company was going to invest in building a network unless they had decent geographical coverage. The mom and pops weren’t going to build anything at all. It took several years for the majors to sort out buying all these licenses and consolidate coverage.

                                  In the mean time Harris lost patience and exited the business.

                                  They offered my dad roles in other divisions, but he was a network guy at the end of the day. So he took a job at the defense contracting arm of Magnavox, which made frequency-hopping radios for the Air Force (division later sold to Raytheon). My dad retired from that job in 1996.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    I was born a little less than 10 years after we last walked on the moon. To me, that is clear "past history" stuff, but my youngest kid was born 22 years after 9/11, and to me that event happened "recently". I've also been out of high school for 24 years.

                                    I know I'm not as old wise as some of you but time speeds up faster each year. I still "feel" (mind, not body) like I'm in my late 20s (I'm 42). Do any of you feel the same, mentally at least? I look at my father in law who is 76 and I'd have to imagine he thinks "there is no way I'm 76" often.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      The Internet is 50 years old.
                                      (More accurately, the paper that lays out what became the TCP/IP foundational technology for the Internet was published 50 years ago. https://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/fall06/cos561/papers/cerf74.pdf )

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                                      @Axtremus said in Wanna feel old?:

                                      The Internet is 50 years old.
                                      (More accurately, the paper that lays out what became the TCP/IP foundational technology for the Internet was published 50 years ago. https://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/fall06/cos561/papers/cerf74.pdf )

                                      Interesting. The paper only seems to describe the IP part of TCP/IP, though. But is TCP/IP the most important piece of tech that made the internet the internet? I'd argue that the HTTP protocol, which didn't arrive until the early 1990s, was at least as important. Specifically, its stateless-ness is what makes the internet scale to the dimensions we see today. TCP/IP was developed with stateful connections in mind.

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                                        How about Jon Postel TCP/IP made the internet the internet, and Tim Berners-Lee HTTP made the web the web.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          Sounds fair. There's also HTML, which enables browsers and then later, JavaScript, which enables real web applications.

                                          It's interesting that the original HTTP specification is just 700 words long, but still found it necessary to point out that "A well-behaved server will not require the carriage return character." and "The client should not assume that the carriage return will be present.".

                                          The most important sentence is the last one: "Requests are idempotent . The server need not store any information about the request after disconnection."

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