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  • bachophileB Offline
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    bachophile
    wrote on last edited by bachophile
    #54

    Vowels are a later addition

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_diacritics

    I can’t say if Biblical Hebrew sounded the same, but the text is readily apparent and understandable

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #55

      So how did that Hungarian composer spell his name again?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        So how did that Hungarian composer spell his name again?

        RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #56

        @George-K

        Which one? Lszt, Brtk, Kdl or Lgt?

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @George-K

          Which one? Lszt, Brtk, Kdl or Lgt?

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          George K
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          #57

          @Renauda said in The Ten Commandments Required:

          @George-K

          Which one? Lszt, Brtk, Kdl or Lgt?

          The second, of course.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
            #58

            https://babylonbee.com/news/keep-religion-out-of-our-schools-says-teacher-with-blm-pride-flags-in-classroom

            alt text

            MN — Following Louisiana's recent addition of the Ten Commandments to school classrooms, sources close to George Floyd Elementary reported that a teacher who keeps BLM and Pride flags prominently displayed in her classroom demanded that the government "keep all religion out of our schools."

            Eyewitnesses in the classroom said indigenous history and genderqueer theory teacher Ladasha Sullet was "absolutely flabbergasted" to hear about Louisiana's new mandate and immediately started shouting about how the government's job is to "keep any and all religions out of the classroom, not shove them down children's throats."

            "That's a total violation of the separation of the church and state!" exclaimed Sullet, momentarily pausing her lecture on the femmeboy branch of genderfluidity to make sure her fourth-grade students properly understood her position on the issue. "There is absolutely no call for any sort of religion to be represented or displayed in a public school classroom — ever! Stop preaching at us!"

            Students reported that Sullet continued her rant about not letting religion into public schools for the rest of the class period, then dismissed class after carefully adjusting her Pride flag and genuflecting before a small portrait of George Floyd she keeps as a shrine on her desk.

            At publishing time, Sullet had instituted daily readings from Mao's Little Red Book for her students after teaching them how dangerous and destructive it would be for any teacher to read students religious books like the Bible.

            The Brad

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                #60

                https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-807712

                Three Jewish families are among a group of nine Louisiana families with children in public schools who have filed a suit in federal court challenging a new state law that requires the Ten Commandments be displayed in all public school classrooms.

                The lawsuit — filed on the families’ behalf by Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, the American Civil Liberties Union and the Freedom from Religion Foundation — argues that the law enacted last week violates the First Amendment.

                Specifically, the complaint says that the language of the law “Approves and Prescribes One Particular Version of the Ten Commandments, to Which Many People Do Not Subscribe,” violating the Constitution’s prohibitions on establishing an official religion and prohibiting free exercise of religion.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #61

                  About as Jewish as Farakan. 😄

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-807712

                    Three Jewish families are among a group of nine Louisiana families with children in public schools who have filed a suit in federal court challenging a new state law that requires the Ten Commandments be displayed in all public school classrooms.

                    The lawsuit — filed on the families’ behalf by Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, the American Civil Liberties Union and the Freedom from Religion Foundation — argues that the law enacted last week violates the First Amendment.

                    Specifically, the complaint says that the language of the law “Approves and Prescribes One Particular Version of the Ten Commandments, to Which Many People Do Not Subscribe,” violating the Constitution’s prohibitions on establishing an official religion and prohibiting free exercise of religion.

                    RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
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                    #62

                    @taiwan_girl

                    Here’s another piece on the pending lawsuit:

                    The legal action points out that a central pillar of the new law – the claim that there is a long tradition linking the Ten Commandments to public education in the US – is based on a fabrication. HB71 quotes James Madison, the fourth president, as saying: “We have staked the whole future of our new nation … upon the capacity of each of ourselves to govern ourselves according to the moral principles of the 10 Commandments.”

                    That quote is fictitious; it is to be found in none of Madison’s writings or speeches. It appears to have been drawn from a conspiracy theory popularized by the late rightwing talk show host Rush Limbaugh.

                    Full article:

                    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/24/louisiana-ten-commandments-schools-lawsuit

                    Elbows up!

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #63

                      Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #64

                        Not much different. Their is a little difference in bible exegesis.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                          Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

                          I think the main differences are in which ones they choose to ignore.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                            Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

                            I think the main differences are in which ones they choose to ignore.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #66

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                            @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                            Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

                            I think the main differences are in which ones they choose to ignore.

                            Well, at least they have some guidelines, many are trying to live by them and they are aware of their failures.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                              @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                              Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

                              I think the main differences are in which ones they choose to ignore.

                              Well, at least they have some guidelines, many are trying to live by them and they are aware of their failures.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #67

                              @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                              @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                              Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

                              I think the main differences are in which ones they choose to ignore.

                              Well, at least they have some guidelines, many are trying to live by them and they are aware of their failures.

                              'Twas but a joke.

                              I was only joking

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                              • CopperC Offline
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                                Copper
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #68

                                Not a great joke, but it is consistent.

                                Anytime someone says Catholic, he says - Catholics are not perfect because they don't obey all the rules.

                                It's not much of a joke, but I guess some think the irony is hilarious.

                                People fail, then get up and try again, over and over, it is kind of like slapstick I guess.

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                                • CopperC Copper

                                  Not a great joke, but it is consistent.

                                  Anytime someone says Catholic, he says - Catholics are not perfect because they don't obey all the rules.

                                  It's not much of a joke, but I guess some think the irony is hilarious.

                                  People fail, then get up and try again, over and over, it is kind of like slapstick I guess.

                                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #69

                                  @Copper said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                  Not a great joke, but it is consistent.

                                  Anytime someone says Catholic, he says - Catholics are not perfect because they don't obey all the rules.

                                  It's not much of a joke, but I guess some think the irony is hilarious.

                                  People fail, then get up and try again, over and over, it is kind of like slapstick I guess.

                                  My apologies if my little joke didn't meet your high standards at humour. Next time I'll try writing the same single word response over and over. That's always an absolute hoot.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • HoraceH Offline
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                                    #70

                                    I was recently chastised for not treating the holocaust with the proper respect, and I've learned and grown from the experience. I think we can all learn a valuable lesson here as well.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #71

                                      With standards we wouldn't last a week.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        I was recently chastised for not treating the holocaust with the proper respect, and I've learned and grown from the experience. I think we can all learn a valuable lesson here as well.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #72

                                        @Horace said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                        I was recently chastised for not treating the holocaust with the proper respect, and I've learned and grown from the experience.

                                        I don’t recall any of that.

                                        I think we can all learn a valuable lesson here as well.

                                        Are you trying to be funny?

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #73

                                          https://apnews.com/us-news/joe-kennedy-iii-church-and-state-texas-dan-patrick-donna-campbell-21a2e0674e92ca9ad0dcb8fa32a31fab

                                          The Texas Senate on Tuesday advanced bills that would require public school classrooms to display the Ten Commandments and allow districts to provide students with time to pray during school hours.

                                          Senators gave final approval to Senate Bill 11, the school prayer bill, on a 23-7 vote. It now heads to the Texas House for consideration. All Republican senators and three Democrats — Royce West of Dallas, Judith Zaffirini of Laredo and Juan Hinojosa of McAllen — voted for the bill.

                                          Lawmakers also gave initial approval to Senate Bill 10, the Ten Commandments bill, on a 20-10 vote. Both proposals are on Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s list of priority bills this session.

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