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The Ten Commandments Required

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ten Commandments Required:

    @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

    I've had a bit of fun with this one, as I agree it will not stand.

    But did anybody catch Shapiro's podcast on guilty vs. shame societies? In short, his argument was that societal behavior was heavily influenced by one or the other. Japan would be an example of a shame society, where the individual confirms to desired behavior out of concern that his neighbors and associates would shame him for bad behavior.

    More religious countries, such as the U.S. used to be, use religious teachings as a way to generate guilt over actions that the individual knows to be wrong. Those teachings also give an individual positive feelings when he believes he is doing the right thing.

    Shapiro contended we are now morphing into a post-shame society, where guilt plays little part in individual lives and shame is rapidly losing any effectiveness. The inevitable result is a non-functioning society.

    Therefore, while I agree the Ten Commandments posters will come down, I'm not sure exposure to a few basic rules for society is entirely bad for young minds of mush.

    I can't be bothered to be that outraged over Louisiana's shenanigans in part because of what Shapiro outlined.

    Like, okay, they'll take it down, but I'm not too outraged over their putting them up.

    I get that and generally agree, and might go farther than Shapiro. We aren’t in a post-shame society, we are actively embracing those things that should cause shame.

    But this isn’t the solution. The problem here is that you are empowering those that push towards either extreme. Louisiana is a fairly conservative state, New Orleans and Baton Rouge not withstanding… The Governor and the legislature know this isn’t going to stand but it also doesn’t really affect them politically, so no big deal right? Eh, not so much. Now you have swing states and swing voters in PA, NC, MI, etc… that might have leaned one way becoming disenchanted or even reverse their position. It could have a very large effect nationally. Take the abortion issue. The bans in Alabama might be very successful there, but it cost the opportunity to gain Virginia. Ultimately, it’s a net loss of you are pro-life…

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    Aqua Letifer
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    @LuFins-Dad said in The Ten Commandments Required:

    It could have a very large effect nationally.

    Compared to having an addled woke puppet and a narcissistic megalomaniac as the only viable options in an election whose outcome will almost certainly cause further mayhem, I don't think it's going to have much of an effect at all nationally.

    Please love yourself.

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      I don’t see how it could help but improve however marginally.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
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        #25

        Sometimes we forget how plugged in we are.

        80% of the country doesn't pay too much attention to this stuff.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Jolly
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          #26

          TRIGGER WARNING!!!

          In case y'all haven't read them lately...

          alt text

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
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            #27

            Even just take out the first four and focus on 5-10.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              LuFins Dad
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              #28

              About IX, what if DJT is my neighbor? Are we okay then? I mean, he does have to be stopped…

              The Brad

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              • MikM Mik

                Even just take out the first four and focus on 5-10.

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                Axtremus
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                #29

                @Mik said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                Even just take out the first four and focus on 5-10.

                Just imagine the SCOTUS redlining select portions of religious scripture out of a piece of legislation. 😄

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                  I believe it was the "Lincoln Project" who posted a video showing how Trump has broken each of the 10.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    TRIGGER WARNING!!!

                    In case y'all haven't read them lately...

                    alt text

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    #31

                    @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                    TRIGGER WARNING!!!

                    In case y'all haven't read them lately...

                    alt text

                    I'd quibble over the order but, meh.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • George KG George K

                      I believe it was the "Lincoln Project" who posted a video showing how Trump has broken each of the 10.

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                      #32

                      @George-K said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                      I believe it was the "Lincoln Project" who posted a video showing how Trump has broken each of the 10.

                      Did Trump received formal education in a classroom with the Ten Commandments posted?

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                        TRIGGER WARNING!!!

                        In case y'all haven't read them lately...

                        alt text

                        I'd quibble over the order but, meh.

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                        #33

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                        @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                        TRIGGER WARNING!!!

                        In case y'all haven't read them lately...

                        alt text

                        I'd quibble over the order but, meh.

                        Good point. I don’t recollect the nun telling us that they were listed in descending order of importance.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @George-K said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                          I believe it was the "Lincoln Project" who posted a video showing how Trump has broken each of the 10.

                          Did Trump received formal education in a classroom with the Ten Commandments posted?

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                          Jolly
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                          @Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                          @George-K said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                          I believe it was the "Lincoln Project" who posted a video showing how Trump has broken each of the 10.

                          Did Trump received formal education in a classroom with the Ten Commandments posted?

                          You writing a book, sahib?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            George K
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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • MikM Mik

                              I don’t see how it could help but improve however marginally.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #36

                              @Mik said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                              I don’t see how it could help but improve however marginally.

                              I'm sure it would help every bit as much as putting health warnings on social media platforms.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                TRIGGER WARNING!!!

                                In case y'all haven't read them lately...

                                alt text

                                I'd quibble over the order but, meh.

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                                xenon
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                                #37

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                TRIGGER WARNING!!!

                                In case y'all haven't read them lately...

                                alt text

                                I'd quibble over the order but, meh.

                                6 seems pretty restrictive. I can't imagine ancient societies thinking capital punishment or killing in war was wrong.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  I believe it was the "Lincoln Project" who posted a video showing how Trump has broken each of the 10.

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                                  #38

                                  @George-K said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                  I believe it was the "Lincoln Project" who posted a video showing how Trump has broken each of the 10.

                                  That’s what cracks me up. I saw the video and it’s a bit of a stretch… but nonetheless, Trump exhibits SO many anti-Christian behaviors it’s remarkable how many church going folks put him on a pedestal. Lying, boastful, prideful, stealing, adultery, etc.

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                                    φονεύσεις

                                    That would have been the word used in the Septuagint in Exodus 20:13. Which also is the shortest commandment.

                                    KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      bachophile
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                                      If it’s any help, the Hebrew is “murder”. “ Kill”would be a different verb as it is in English.

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                                        Murder is something I've always tried to avoid taking part in. We actually didn't need a sign up at our school to point out that this was frowned upon, but I guess you chaps might need more of a reminder, what with everything.

                                        Maybe there should be a lot more signs. 'Thou shalt not pee in they pants!', 'Thou shalt not fiddle about with thyself, even whilst ye attractive Miss Walsh is teaching thee ye olde trigonometree'

                                        It couldn't hurt, right?

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          Murder is something I've always tried to avoid taking part in. We actually didn't need a sign up at our school to point out that this was frowned upon, but I guess you chaps might need more of a reminder, what with everything.

                                          Maybe there should be a lot more signs. 'Thou shalt not pee in they pants!', 'Thou shalt not fiddle about with thyself, even whilst ye attractive Miss Walsh is teaching thee ye olde trigonometree'

                                          It couldn't hurt, right?

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                                          Mik
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                                          #42

                                          @Doctor-Phibes that was Ax-like in its missing of the point. 😄

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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