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The Heat Is On

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/11/air-conditioning-protect-extreme-heat

    A few notes...

    Buildings are not built for the heat. Look to the old buildings...High ceilings, lots of shade trees, most of them were white. Add in thick walls, modern insulation, natural air flow through windows and they're easier to cool.

    Zone A/C. Nobody had central air when I was a kid, except for stores. Might want to revisit that.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      #2

      Heat was one reason I moved to Minnesota (no joke).

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        You mean so you could have it on 9 months out of the year?

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #4

          I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #5

            @Mik said in The Heat Is On:

            I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

            I can always put on another layer, build up the fire, etc… even if my heat went out. Once you get past 95 you can’t be inside most buildings without AC/Power.

            The Brad

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
              wrote on last edited by Mik
              #6

              You clearly grew up with AC. I didn't. I'd bet Jolly didn't either. There are ways to keep cool, but staying warm without power is a lot harder than staying cool.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @Mik said in The Heat Is On:

                I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

                SAME.

                Please love yourself.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by George K
                  #8

                  I grew up without A/C for the first 12 years (?) of my life. I must've been eight when we got a window air conditioner that was parked in the kitchen, with the hope of cooling the main level. Bedrooms were upstairs.

                  Goodness, I remember the sweaty sheets, tossing and turning, fighting the humidity.

                  For me?

                  I'll take 40 degrees over 100 degrees any day.

                  Gimme another blanket, but you can only get so naked.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    I grew up without A/C for the first 12 years (?) of my life. I must've been eight when we got a window air conditioner that was parked in the kitchen, with the hope of cooling the main level. Bedrooms were upstairs.

                    Goodness, I remember the sweaty sheets, tossing and turning, fighting the humidity.

                    For me?

                    I'll take 40 degrees over 100 degrees any day.

                    Gimme another blanket, but you can only get so naked.

                    AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
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                    #9

                    @George-K said in The Heat Is On:

                    I grew up without A/C for the first 12 years (?) of my life. I must've been eight when we got a window air conditioner that was parked in the kitchen, with the hope of cooling the main level. Bedrooms were upstairs.

                    Goodness, I remember the sweaty sheets, tossing and turning, fighting the humidity.

                    So … does global warming climate change feel real to you?

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                    • George KG George K

                      I grew up without A/C for the first 12 years (?) of my life. I must've been eight when we got a window air conditioner that was parked in the kitchen, with the hope of cooling the main level. Bedrooms were upstairs.

                      Goodness, I remember the sweaty sheets, tossing and turning, fighting the humidity.

                      For me?

                      I'll take 40 degrees over 100 degrees any day.

                      Gimme another blanket, but you can only get so naked.

                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #10

                      @George-K said in The Heat Is On:

                      I grew up without A/C for the first 12 years (?) of my life. I must've been eight when we got a window air conditioner that was parked in the kitchen, with the hope of cooling the main level. Bedrooms were upstairs.

                      Goodness, I remember the sweaty sheets, tossing and turning, fighting the humidity.

                      For me?

                      I'll take 40 degrees over 100 degrees any day.

                      Gimme another blanket, but you can only get so naked.

                      I did too. When I was ~ 8, my asthma was really bad and my parents acquired a used HUGE window AC unit that they put in my bedroom that was way too overpowered for a small bedroom. After a few weeks they realized that it helped the best to have it in the dining room and it could help most of the downstairs. On nights when my asthma was bad, I would sleep on the couch that we would pull into the dining room.

                      The Brad

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @Mik said in The Heat Is On:

                        I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

                        SAME.

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in The Heat Is On:

                        @Mik said in The Heat Is On:

                        I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

                        SAME.

                        Would you rather be camping/backpacking when it’s 20 degrees at night or 90 degrees at night?

                        I’ve done both. I would rather the 20 degree nights. The 90 degree nights were miserable.

                        The Brad

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
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                          #12

                          You need better judgement on when to go backpacking. 😆

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @George-K said in The Heat Is On:

                            I grew up without A/C for the first 12 years (?) of my life. I must've been eight when we got a window air conditioner that was parked in the kitchen, with the hope of cooling the main level. Bedrooms were upstairs.

                            Goodness, I remember the sweaty sheets, tossing and turning, fighting the humidity.

                            So … does global warming climate change feel real to you?

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Axtremus said in The Heat Is On:

                            So … does global warming climate change feel real to you?

                            No.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              Didja ever have to sleep in the basement because it was too hot?

                              Done that too.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                #15

                                We had no AC in TEXAS when I was born, none in Ohio, where I lived 2-9. We had it in Florida where I lived 9-14 (but my school didn't, and we started in August). No AC in upstate NY where I went to High School either. None in the dorms in college.

                                So I had AC for 5 years of my first 20.

                                Oddly, my maternal grandfather worked for the Air Conditioning division of GE in the 30s through the 70s. It was later sold to Carrier.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #16

                                  I too had no AC growing up, unless you count the hard, bleak wind coming in from the Irish sea.

                                  Sure, it was cold, but you know what, it was a wet cold.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    I too had no AC growing up, unless you count the hard, bleak wind coming in from the Irish sea.

                                    Sure, it was cold, but you know what, it was a wet cold.

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Heat Is On:

                                    Sure, it was cold, but you know what, it was a wet cold.

                                    I'll take your wet British cold over my wet Midwestern heat.

                                    Every time.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • CopperC Offline
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                                      Copper
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                                      #18

                                      We had no AC growing up.

                                      Hot is better.

                                      If the temperature is in the low 30s or less at sunrise, there will be a frost delay. That temperature inversion is going to happen.

                                      You can't play on frost on greens.

                                      There is no frost at 100 degrees.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Heat Is On:

                                        Sure, it was cold, but you know what, it was a wet cold.

                                        I'll take your wet British cold over my wet Midwestern heat.

                                        Every time.

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                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #19

                                        @George-K said in The Heat Is On:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Heat Is On:

                                        Sure, it was cold, but you know what, it was a wet cold.

                                        I'll take your wet British cold over my wet Midwestern heat.

                                        Every time.

                                        It’s funny I never thought I’d miss the Lancashire drizzle, but I do

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Heat Is On:

                                          @Mik said in The Heat Is On:

                                          I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

                                          SAME.

                                          Would you rather be camping/backpacking when it’s 20 degrees at night or 90 degrees at night?

                                          I’ve done both. I would rather the 20 degree nights. The 90 degree nights were miserable.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          #20

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in The Heat Is On:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Heat Is On:

                                          @Mik said in The Heat Is On:

                                          I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

                                          SAME.

                                          Would you rather be camping/backpacking when it’s 20 degrees at night or 90 degrees at night?

                                          I’ve done both. I would rather the 20 degree nights. The 90 degree nights were miserable.

                                          I've humped it 38 miles without drinking water because it froze.
                                          I've pissed on my hands so that I'd have enough dexterity to start a fire.

                                          Gimme the heat.

                                          Please love yourself.

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