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  • KlausK Klaus

    @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

    We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

    Here are a few things he could have done instead.

    • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
    • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
    • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
    • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

    Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

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    HoraceH Online
    Horace
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    #22

    @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

    @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

    We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

    Here are a few things he could have done instead.

    • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
    • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
    • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
    • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

    Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

    Yes he could have acted in a way I would have liked more, and I like all your suggestions more than what he did. However I'll take his response over what a Democrat would do about weaponized wokeness in the workplace, which is to encourage it.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

      @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

      We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

      Here are a few things he could have done instead.

      • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
      • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
      • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
      • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

      Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

      Yes he could have acted in a way I would have liked more, and I like all your suggestions more than what he did. However I'll take his response over what a Democrat would do about weaponized wokeness in the workplace, which is to encourage it.

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      Jolly
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      @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

      @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

      @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

      We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

      Here are a few things he could have done instead.

      • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
      • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
      • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
      • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

      Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

      Yes he could have acted in a way I would have liked more, and I like all your suggestions more than what he did. However I'll take his response over what a Democrat would do about weaponized wokeness in the workplace, which is to encourage it.

      Can I get an Amen!

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

        @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

        We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

        Here are a few things he could have done instead.

        • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
        • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
        • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
        • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

        Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

        Yes he could have acted in a way I would have liked more, and I like all your suggestions more than what he did. However I'll take his response over what a Democrat would do about weaponized wokeness in the workplace, which is to encourage it.

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        Klaus
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        @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

        Yes he could have acted in a way I would have liked more, and I like all your suggestions more than what he did. However I'll take his response over what a Democrat would do about weaponized wokeness in the workplace, which is to encourage it.

        Fair enough, but I think the point you are missing is that Trump's behavior is harmful in other regards completely separate from the "woke companies" issue, and there is no indication that Biden, say, would do a similar kind of damage. I'm talking about political culture itself, of course: the qualities we associate with political leadership in a constitutional democracy, as opposed to the political leadership of a tribalistic despot.

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          As usual, I bet you don't know any background...Trump's ire is aroused because of Goodyear's new policy:

          While Goodyear has the right to dictate employee dress while at work, MAGA items were singled out, along with other things.

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          @Jolly said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

          As usual, I bet you don't know any background...Trump's ire is aroused because of Goodyear's new policy:

          While Goodyear has the right to dictate employee dress while at work, MAGA items were singled out, along with other things.

          Goodyear clarify that this was not company policy, not agreed by them, etc etc As is usual, something gets out and is acted upon before full investigation is completed.

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            Jolly
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            Read what isn't said. It's a classic case of plausible deniability.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Read what isn't said. It's a classic case of plausible deniability.

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              taiwan_girl
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              @Jolly said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

              Read what isn't said. It's a classic case of plausible deniability.

              What isn't said??

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                Klaus
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                #28

                Well, for one they could have said in what context the slide was used and who created it.

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  Well, for one they could have said in what context the slide was used and who created it.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                  Well, for one they could have said in what context the slide was used and who created it.

                  Which leads me to believe that it wasn't created out of thin air. Also notice they went to some pains not to say where it came from.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • HoraceH Online
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                    Horace
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                    I guess it was created by some middle manager HR type at a local goodyear. Goodyear's response amounts to denying that the board of directors gave the slide an explicit approval.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      I'm shocked that Goodyear would have the appearance of not telling the whole story.

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