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Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #4

    Since a surgical transition is qualitatively suicidal, these results might track with future suicide risk of those who've attempted suicide once, vs those who've never attempted.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      Since a surgical transition is qualitatively suicidal, these results might track with future suicide risk of those who've attempted suicide once, vs those who've never attempted.

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      @Horace good point. Killing off the original person in favor of the perceived new.

      Still, these people are being sold a fantasy that their life will be so much better, when I think in fact they will still not be seen as who they want to be.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG George K

        https://www.cureus.com/articles/201512-risk-of-suicide-and-self-harm-following-gender-affirmation-surgery?#!/

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        @George-K said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

        https://www.cureus.com/articles/201512-risk-of-suicide-and-self-harm-following-gender-affirmation-surgery?#!/

        Okay, looks like a project/thesis through University of Texas, Galveston by students but with oversight by two professors. Not exactly NIH but much better than some internet rando.

        Now the methods need scrutiny.

        I’m not wanting to be overly critical, but there was/is so much crap put out there as science, that it is vital the studies that dispute them be meticulously well crafted and considered.

        The Brad

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          #7

          Does it [the suicide attempt stat] really matter?

          Probably very, very little.

          Elbows up!

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            @LuFins-Dad

            He’s got one other publication on PubMed, in cardiology.

            IMG_6693.png

            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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              @LuFins-Dad

              He’s got one other publication on PubMed, in cardiology.

              IMG_6693.png

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              @jon-nyc said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

              @LuFins-Dad

              He’s got one other publication on PubMed, in cardiology.

              IMG_6693.png

              He’s listed as a student. If you open George’s second link it provides all the authors of the study and click on the name for their creds. As I mentioned, all students, the one guy is at least a medical student, most of the other seem to be statistics or IT and two professors. One in Psychiatry.

              The Brad

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                https://www.cureus.com/users/622504-john-j-straub

                https://www.cureus.com/users/608295-krishna-k-paul

                https://www.cureus.com/users/622507-lauren-g-bothwell

                https://www.cureus.com/users/622513-michael-miller

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @jon-nyc said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                  @LuFins-Dad

                  He’s got one other publication on PubMed, in cardiology.

                  IMG_6693.png

                  He’s listed as a student. If you open George’s second link it provides all the authors of the study and click on the name for their creds. As I mentioned, all students, the one guy is at least a medical student, most of the other seem to be statistics or IT and two professors. One in Psychiatry.

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                  As I mentioned, all students, the one guy is at least a medical student, most of the other seem to be statistics or IT and two professors. One in Psychology.

                  Psychiatry, not psychology.

                  Screenshot 2024-05-17 at 5.27.58 PM.png

                  So, two docs (one a professor at U of Texas), some medical ("grad") students, some research assistants.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                    As I mentioned, all students, the one guy is at least a medical student, most of the other seem to be statistics or IT and two professors. One in Psychology.

                    Psychiatry, not psychology.

                    Screenshot 2024-05-17 at 5.27.58 PM.png

                    So, two docs (one a professor at U of Texas), some medical ("grad") students, some research assistants.

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                    @George-K said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                    As I mentioned, all students, the one guy is at least a medical student, most of the other seem to be statistics or IT and two professors. One in Psychology.

                    Psychiatry, not psychology.

                    Screenshot 2024-05-17 at 5.27.58 PM.png

                    So, two docs (one a professor at U of Texas), some medical ("grad") students, some research assistants.

                    Yeah, already cross edited.

                    The Brad

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                      #13

                      Now that doesn’t diminish their findings, but that could be used to twist public perception. It would be nice if a follow up was conducted by some people with more letters after their names.

                      The Brad

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