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Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    It’s published on NIH, that doesn’t make it an NIH study. I can find no references on John J Straub at all

    The Brad

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #3

      https://www.cureus.com/articles/201512-risk-of-suicide-and-self-harm-following-gender-affirmation-surgery?#!/

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
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        #4

        Since a surgical transition is qualitatively suicidal, these results might track with future suicide risk of those who've attempted suicide once, vs those who've never attempted.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          Since a surgical transition is qualitatively suicidal, these results might track with future suicide risk of those who've attempted suicide once, vs those who've never attempted.

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          @Horace good point. Killing off the original person in favor of the perceived new.

          Still, these people are being sold a fantasy that their life will be so much better, when I think in fact they will still not be seen as who they want to be.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG George K

            https://www.cureus.com/articles/201512-risk-of-suicide-and-self-harm-following-gender-affirmation-surgery?#!/

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #6

            @George-K said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

            https://www.cureus.com/articles/201512-risk-of-suicide-and-self-harm-following-gender-affirmation-surgery?#!/

            Okay, looks like a project/thesis through University of Texas, Galveston by students but with oversight by two professors. Not exactly NIH but much better than some internet rando.

            Now the methods need scrutiny.

            I’m not wanting to be overly critical, but there was/is so much crap put out there as science, that it is vital the studies that dispute them be meticulously well crafted and considered.

            The Brad

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              #7

              Does it [the suicide attempt stat] really matter?

              Probably very, very little.

              Elbows up!

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                @LuFins-Dad

                He’s got one other publication on PubMed, in cardiology.

                IMG_6693.png

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad

                  He’s got one other publication on PubMed, in cardiology.

                  IMG_6693.png

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  @jon-nyc said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                  @LuFins-Dad

                  He’s got one other publication on PubMed, in cardiology.

                  IMG_6693.png

                  He’s listed as a student. If you open George’s second link it provides all the authors of the study and click on the name for their creds. As I mentioned, all students, the one guy is at least a medical student, most of the other seem to be statistics or IT and two professors. One in Psychiatry.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #10

                    https://www.cureus.com/users/622504-john-j-straub

                    https://www.cureus.com/users/608295-krishna-k-paul

                    https://www.cureus.com/users/622507-lauren-g-bothwell

                    https://www.cureus.com/users/622513-michael-miller

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @jon-nyc said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                      @LuFins-Dad

                      He’s got one other publication on PubMed, in cardiology.

                      IMG_6693.png

                      He’s listed as a student. If you open George’s second link it provides all the authors of the study and click on the name for their creds. As I mentioned, all students, the one guy is at least a medical student, most of the other seem to be statistics or IT and two professors. One in Psychiatry.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                      As I mentioned, all students, the one guy is at least a medical student, most of the other seem to be statistics or IT and two professors. One in Psychology.

                      Psychiatry, not psychology.

                      Screenshot 2024-05-17 at 5.27.58 PM.png

                      So, two docs (one a professor at U of Texas), some medical ("grad") students, some research assistants.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                        As I mentioned, all students, the one guy is at least a medical student, most of the other seem to be statistics or IT and two professors. One in Psychology.

                        Psychiatry, not psychology.

                        Screenshot 2024-05-17 at 5.27.58 PM.png

                        So, two docs (one a professor at U of Texas), some medical ("grad") students, some research assistants.

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #12

                        @George-K said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Post-transition Transgender suicide attempts:

                        As I mentioned, all students, the one guy is at least a medical student, most of the other seem to be statistics or IT and two professors. One in Psychology.

                        Psychiatry, not psychology.

                        Screenshot 2024-05-17 at 5.27.58 PM.png

                        So, two docs (one a professor at U of Texas), some medical ("grad") students, some research assistants.

                        Yeah, already cross edited.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          #13

                          Now that doesn’t diminish their findings, but that could be used to twist public perception. It would be nice if a follow up was conducted by some people with more letters after their names.

                          The Brad

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