The Karen Read Murder Trial

Doctor Phibes

@George-K said in The Karen Read Murder Trial:

But, the defense's job is not to indict the families, cops, etc. It's to plant reasonable doubt about Read's guilt. IMO, they've done that.

Let's just hope the jury isn't entirely made up friends and relatives of the local constabulary.

I know a few people around here who are in 'police families'. There's a few interesting stories - and those are just the ones they tell publicly.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Karen Read Murder Trial:

Let's just hope the jury isn't entirely made up friends and relatives of the local constabulary.

The other issue is that there's testimony that everyone always considered Read an "outsider." She was one of the few not associated with the police.

taiwan_girl

(It is a guilty pleasure of me that I like this stuff. LOL)

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

Sister of the guy who owns the house where the dead cop was found.

12:41:10 AM she calls the dead cop - no answer. She deletes the call
12:41:49 AM she calls the dead cop - no answer. She deletes the call
12:42 she texts "Where are u"
12:43:19 AM she calls the dead cop - no answer. She deletes the call
12:43:59 AM she calls the dead cop - no answer. She deletes the call
12:45:19 AM she texts "hello"

She calls (and deletes) three more times in the next 5 minutes.

1:00 All guests leave house other than the sister, who leaves at 1:47 AM

2:12 she arrives at home

2:27 she does an internet search for "hos (sic) long to die in cold."

4:52 AM girlfriend of dead cop find he has not arrived at home. 10 min later she calls sister of owner of property.

6:02 girlfriend and sister arrive to find dead cop on front lawn.

Just amazing.

The state is claiming that the girlfriend killed the boyfriend by backing into him with her car after a fight.

Missing at the scene of the supposed "murder" is one of the cop's shoes.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

By the way, is it possible to "butt-dial" a smartphone?

That's one of the excuses given by the "witnesses" to explain how phone calls were made.

taiwan_girl

@George-K said in The Karen Read Murder Trial:

By the way, is it possible to "butt-dial" a smartphone?

Yes. Not sure how it happens, but it has happened to me before.

Horace

if it doesn't require face ID, it's "possible" to butt dial the complete works of Shakespeare.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

The whole story is remarkably complicated and convoluted.

Here's an explanation:

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George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

@taiwan_girl said in The Karen Read Murder Trial:

Yes. Not sure how it happens, but it has happened to me before.

One of the witnesses claims that he fell asleep with his phone (ahem) in his bed, and then butt-dialed a friend.

Rich

@George-K Have you followed on the sage with “turtle boy” Aiden Kearney? Blogger covering the case, and subsequently indicted on charges of witness intimidation based on his twitter posts about the case.

This whole thing is so over the top crooked, it’s feels like a bad movie.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

@Rich only peripherally.

I know that Kearney ("Turtleboy") was prevented from being in the courtroom when certain ~~conspirators~~ witnesses were there, but I wasn't aware that he had been indicted.

This is just a crazy crazy case.

We are now 15 days into the trail (3 weeks) and it STILL has not been alleged how the cop was killed.

No medical examiner, no expert witnesses...nothign.

Best summary I've read of what might have happened.

The McAlberts (Brian and Chris Albert - homeowner of "after-party" location, and Jennifer McCabe - sister) probably knocked John O'Keefe (dead cop) unconscious after a brawl, realized that he may be comatose from the blunt-force trauma to his head, so, instead of trying to save his life, they dragged and dumped his LIVING body outside the house on the front lawn, while he still breathing, shortly after that they Googled: "hos long to die in the cold" to gather intel as to how much time needs to elapse for John to stop breathing from hypothermia. They spent the night getting everyone's story straight in anticipation of the cops. It's possible that the McAlberts were so mellow and even-keeled because they were all exhausted and were severely lacking in sleep, plus they were all hyper-stressed due to having to deal with a death on their hands.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

Unbelievable stuff today.

The friend of the brother of the guy whose house this occurred at testified. On the chart, his name is Higgins.

The amazing things

coincidentally he deleted and destroyed his cellphone the day before an order to maintain the phone was delivered.
coincidentally his buddy, Brian Albert, deleted HIS cellphone the exact same day, the day before the order to protect was delivered.
he "butt dialed" Brian at 2 AM. Although he sleeps with his phone on a nightstand.
he spent 5 hours at the police station doing "administrative work the next day, when he was not on duty
he was at the station when the defendants car was delivered (after another cop - Proctor - was in possession of it for 90 unaccounted-for minutes)
surveillance video at the station of the car's delivery is ... missing
he contacted his friend an FBI agent to help him delete selected texts and messages from his phone (using Federal resources - it was done in the ATF building - for personal purposes is a felony)

And all this shit is coming out under cross examination by the defense. We are still in the Commonwealth's stage of the trial. Defense has yet to call a witness. Commonwealth has called about 45 so far.

Horace

20 years ago there would be a zero % chance of the conspiracy getting foiled. Let's see how this one turns out.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

dow = Department of Public Works

Kelleher is cop living across the street

Library footage would have shown defendant's care being delivered to police station sally port

Colin has a history of violence and fighting

Victim was found wearing only one shoe, and no belt (video of victim at a bar shows a belt)

Just amazing stuff.

Doctor Phibes

This is all a bit close to home. I saw she was from Mansfield, so I Googled her address. I used to cycle past her house every few weeks - not just close, but right past it.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

@Jolly said in The Karen Read Murder Trial:

That's not blunt tauma from a car.

CW brought in their forensics expert who showed pictures of many things. Among them was the jacket that O'Keefe was wearing. Multiple punctures and hols on the right sleeve. Here is is, next to a photo of his arm injuries.

Here's a closeup of the holes - this is from being hit by a car?

taiwan_girl

Doesnt look good. I dont think I have to be an expert witness to tell that did not come from a car.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

@taiwan_girl said in The Karen Read Murder Trial:

Doesnt look good.

This trial is a total disaster. The CW (Commonwealth) told the Court that their part of the case would take about 5-6 weeks, and the defense said 2-3.

Today is day 20 of court, but we are in the 6th week - court is not every day. The CW prosecutor is the worst, most disorganized lawyer I've eve seen. He was called over 55 witnesses, so far, and asked them dozens, hundreds, of irrelevant questions. He asked what they drank at the bar before the "after-party," what they were wearing. He asked every first-responder and other cop about their training, experience, etc.

This testimony was, after 19 days of trial the FIRST time we saw forensics, or any other professional testimony, other than the dog DNA expert.

So, here we are - with nothing, yet, to prove their case.

Meanwhile, the defense just said that they're going to need 3-4 days for their part of the trial. They've done such a great job of asking question in cross-examination of these witnesses that they've provided more than a little reaasonable doubt.

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