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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    I hear there's an empty cell next to Navarro...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Jolly, I figured you'd be against the weaponization of Congress. I know the Republicans did this as an election year tactic in 2012 to Holder... which later amounted to nothing since Obama claimed executive privilege and later an investigation cleared Holder of wrongdoing. 12 years later... same song, same dance?

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        Lois Lerner was held in contempt too.

        But, to your point, I don't think the DOJ withholding audio of the interview falls under "executive privilege" because the transcript is already a matter of public record.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • 89th8 89th

          Jolly, I figured you'd be against the weaponization of Congress. I know the Republicans did this as an election year tactic in 2012 to Holder... which later amounted to nothing since Obama claimed executive privilege and later an investigation cleared Holder of wrongdoing. 12 years later... same song, same dance?

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          @89th said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

          Jolly, I figured you'd be against the weaponization of Congress. I know the Republicans did this as an election year tactic in 2012 to Holder... which later amounted to nothing since Obama claimed executive privilege and later an investigation cleared Holder of wrongdoing. 12 years later... same song, same dance?

          Navarro is sitting in jail. Bannon is on his way.

          Now tell me, who held them in Contempt of Congress and who prosecuted them?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Bannon’s problem was he simply blew off the request. Ignored it.

            Had he come to Congress and simply claimed executive privilege for not answering questions he wouldn’t be spending the summer in jail.

            On the bright side, he’ll be better dressed for a spell.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @89th said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

              Jolly, I figured you'd be against the weaponization of Congress. I know the Republicans did this as an election year tactic in 2012 to Holder... which later amounted to nothing since Obama claimed executive privilege and later an investigation cleared Holder of wrongdoing. 12 years later... same song, same dance?

              Navarro is sitting in jail. Bannon is on his way.

              Now tell me, who held them in Contempt of Congress and who prosecuted them?

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              @Jolly said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

              @89th said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

              Jolly, I figured you'd be against the weaponization of Congress. I know the Republicans did this as an election year tactic in 2012 to Holder... which later amounted to nothing since Obama claimed executive privilege and later an investigation cleared Holder of wrongdoing. 12 years later... same song, same dance?

              Navarro is sitting in jail. Bannon is on his way.

              Now tell me, who held them in Contempt of Congress and who prosecuted them?

              Oh I was referring to AGs, to George's question. It looks like the Democrats did that to Navarro and Bannon, who I guess preferred the jail sentence to the alternative of speaking under oath. I am confident you disagree with Congress's contempt finding of Navarro and Bannon just as you'd disagree with finding Garland in contempt.

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                I disagree with selective prosecution.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • 89th8 89th

                  Jolly, I figured you'd be against the weaponization of Congress. I know the Republicans did this as an election year tactic in 2012 to Holder... which later amounted to nothing since Obama claimed executive privilege and later an investigation cleared Holder of wrongdoing. 12 years later... same song, same dance?

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                  @89th said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                  Obama claimed executive privilege and later an investigation cleared Holder of wrongdoing. 12 years later... same song, same dance?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
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                    Garland is held in contempt of Congress.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      #11

                      They never seem to understand the two edged sword. The problem is we keep electing these snakes.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        They never seem to understand the two edged sword. The problem is we keep electing these snakes.

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                        George K
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                        @Mik said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                        They never seem to understand the two edged sword. The problem is we keep electing these snakes.

                        That's right. Holder and Barr were held in contempt.

                        The problem I have with it is that some, like Navarro and Bannon, get sent to jail while others don't.

                        Holding the AG in contempt is a clown side show. It's a political gesture rather than enforcement of law.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          The difference is they were private citizens claiming executive privilege. Seems weaker than an actual executive branch official claiming it.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • George KG George K

                            @89th said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                            Obama claimed executive privilege and later an investigation cleared Holder of wrongdoing. 12 years later... same song, same dance?

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                            @George-K said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                            Any more transparently political than the request for the audio?

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              @George-K said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                              Any more transparently political than the request for the audio?

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                              @jon-nyc said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                              Any more transparently political than the request for the audio?

                              The audio is damaging.

                              GOP: We want to damage you.

                              Dems: We don't want you to see how addled our man is. It might damage us.

                              Tough call.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                They already have the transcript. Surely that’s all one needs for oversight.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  They already have the transcript. Surely that’s all one needs for oversight.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                                  They already have the transcript. Surely that’s all one needs for oversight.

                                  Yes, that's true.

                                  But the "My Cousin Vinnie" approach might be important.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Assuming they trust the transcript is accurate and complete.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Assuming they trust the transcript is accurate and complete.

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                                      @Mik said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                                      Assuming they trust the transcript is accurate and complete.

                                      Why wouldn't they....

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @Mik said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                                        Assuming they trust the transcript is accurate and complete.

                                        Why wouldn't they....

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        @George-K said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                                        @Mik said in Contempt of Congress - Criminal Referral:

                                        Assuming they trust the transcript is accurate and complete.

                                        Why wouldn't they....

                                        They don’t trust Donald Trump appointees? They figure clerks to Chief Justice Renquist are secret libtards?

                                        Or do they not really think at all but just buy into the maga victimhood narrative sold to them by maga media?

                                        It’s all so complicated.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          Do you?

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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