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  • K kluurs
    15 May 2024, 20:41

    He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling through Biden's robust economy.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 15 May 2024, 22:15 last edited by
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    @kluurs said in Butker calls it out.:

    He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling through Biden's robust economy.

    I think the reason they're so pissed, is that there is some truth there for some people.

    1. A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs. I think that stems from not having any grounding in your place in the world.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Jolly
      wrote on 15 May 2024, 22:18 last edited by
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      Cont...

      Maybe that's because some young women should work. Some should have careers. Maybe some should be homemakers. The career superwoman with two children is an unobtainable goal for many.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Jolly
        wrote on 15 May 2024, 22:19 last edited by
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        1. The Gay Agenda. Ever more radical, I'm not sure even the majority of LGBQT people buy into it.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          15 May 2024, 22:15

          @kluurs said in Butker calls it out.:

          He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling through Biden's robust economy.

          I think the reason they're so pissed, is that there is some truth there for some people.

          1. A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs. I think that stems from not having any grounding in your place in the world.
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          Renauda
          wrote on 15 May 2024, 23:14 last edited by Renauda
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          @Jolly

          A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs.

          There was a time that a significant percentage of Western women - single, married and widowed - were on laudanum. It was cheaper than booze and readily accessible.

          Only the sophistication and regulation of the substances has changed since those days.

          Elbows up!

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          • M Mik
            15 May 2024, 18:38

            @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

            @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

            So can you, asshole.

            I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

            No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.

            He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.

            So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.

            It’s also how same sex couples are getting children, which may be also what he was getting at.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 15 May 2024, 23:21 last edited by
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            @Mik said in Butker calls it out.:

            @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

            @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

            So can you, asshole.

            I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

            No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.

            He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.

            So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.

            It’s also how same sex couples are getting children, which may be also what he was getting at.

            Bingo. Surrogacy has become a very contentious subject recently, primarily dealing with same sex couples.

            The Brad

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              Renauda
              wrote on 15 May 2024, 23:29 last edited by Renauda
              #27

              How is it that surrogacy - other than gay couples - itself is considered anathema among the faithful?

              Elbows up!

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              • L LuFins Dad
                15 May 2024, 23:21

                @Mik said in Butker calls it out.:

                @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                So can you, asshole.

                I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

                No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.

                He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.

                So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.

                It’s also how same sex couples are getting children, which may be also what he was getting at.

                Bingo. Surrogacy has become a very contentious subject recently, primarily dealing with same sex couples.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 15 May 2024, 23:34 last edited by
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                @LuFins-Dad said in Butker calls it out.:

                Bingo. Surrogacy has become a very contentious subject recently, primarily dealing with sam

                If he wanted to attack the gays, then he should just attack the gays. There's plenty of straight couples who've used surrogacy.

                Anyway, it's probably not worth me getting too upset about. Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.

                I was only joking

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                • R Renauda
                  15 May 2024, 23:29

                  How is it that surrogacy - other than gay couples - itself is considered anathema among the faithful?

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 15 May 2024, 23:40 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                  @Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

                  How is it that surrogacy - other than gay couples - itself is considered anathema among the faithful?

                  Pope Francis:

                  “I deem deplorable the practice of so-called surrogate motherhood, which represents a grave violation of the dignity of the woman and the child, based on the exploitation of situations of the mother’s material needs.”

                  You could argue that doing it for money is going to lead to abuse, but it's more complex than that. I know somebody whose sister carried her baby on her behalf. There was no money involved.

                  I was only joking

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    15 May 2024, 23:34

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Butker calls it out.:

                    Bingo. Surrogacy has become a very contentious subject recently, primarily dealing with sam

                    If he wanted to attack the gays, then he should just attack the gays. There's plenty of straight couples who've used surrogacy.

                    Anyway, it's probably not worth me getting too upset about. Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 15 May 2024, 23:43 last edited by
                    #30

                    @Doctor-Phibes

                    Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.

                    Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • R Renauda
                      15 May 2024, 23:14

                      @Jolly

                      A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs.

                      There was a time that a significant percentage of Western women - single, married and widowed - were on laudanum. It was cheaper than booze and readily accessible.

                      Only the sophistication and regulation of the substances has changed since those days.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 15 May 2024, 23:46 last edited by
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                      @Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

                      @Jolly

                      A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs.

                      There was a time that a significant percentage of Western women - single, married and widowed - were on laudanum. It was cheaper than booze and readily accessible.

                      Only the sophistication and regulation of the substances has changed since those days.

                      I’d rather have laudanum.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        15 May 2024, 23:40

                        @Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

                        How is it that surrogacy - other than gay couples - itself is considered anathema among the faithful?

                        Pope Francis:

                        “I deem deplorable the practice of so-called surrogate motherhood, which represents a grave violation of the dignity of the woman and the child, based on the exploitation of situations of the mother’s material needs.”

                        You could argue that doing it for money is going to lead to abuse, but it's more complex than that. I know somebody whose sister carried her baby on her behalf. There was no money involved.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 15 May 2024, 23:48 last edited by Renauda
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                        @Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

                        How is it that surrogacy - other than gay couples - itself is considered anathema among the faithful?

                        Pope Francis:

                        “I deem deplorable the practice of so-called surrogate motherhood, which represents a grave violation of the dignity of the woman and the child, based on the exploitation of situations of the mother’s material needs.”

                        You could argue that doing it for money is going to lead to abuse, but it's more complex than that. I know somebody whose sister carried her baby on her behalf. There was no money involved.

                        Yes I have heard that statement from the Bishop of Rome. Still doesn’t tell what immoral about it.

                        It too have a friend whose sister acted as surrogate. The family were staunch RCs.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • K kluurs
                          15 May 2024, 20:41

                          He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling through Biden's robust economy.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 16 May 2024, 00:04 last edited by
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                          @kluurs said in Butker calls it out.:

                          He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling through Biden's robust economy.

                          Here’s the thing, there is very much a chicken/egg thing here. As more women entered the workplace in the 70s and 80s, there was a significant increase in the labor pool, suppressing wages. The suppressed wages forces families where the mother doesn’t want to be in the workforce into the labor pool by necessity. Now it’s generally accepted that families require two incomes.

                          If a sizeable portion of women chose to leave or not enter the workforce, then labor rates would have to rise as employers would have to be more competitive for qualified candidates.

                          The Brad

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 16 May 2024, 00:05 last edited by
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                            Nah. We’d just open the borders again.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • R Renauda
                              15 May 2024, 23:43

                              @Doctor-Phibes

                              Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.

                              Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 16 May 2024, 01:38 last edited by
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                              @Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

                              @Doctor-Phibes

                              Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.

                              Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.

                              That's funny.

                              When I read JDs post about pontificating, I thought he was talking about himself. Now I see the ambiguity.

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                              • C Copper
                                16 May 2024, 01:38

                                @Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

                                @Doctor-Phibes

                                Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.

                                Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.

                                That's funny.

                                When I read JDs post about pontificating, I thought he was talking about himself. Now I see the ambiguity.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 16 May 2024, 02:00 last edited by Renauda
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                                @Copper

                                True, I know bugger all about American football, other than it has four downs not three. I do know however a tiny bit about the popularity of the Russell Crowe character in Gladiator. Sorry to learn that you see the ambiguity. Do you hear voices too? If so, you may want to have those checked out by a professional..

                                Elbows up!

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                                • C Copper
                                  16 May 2024, 01:38

                                  @Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes

                                  Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.

                                  Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.

                                  That's funny.

                                  When I read JDs post about pontificating, I thought he was talking about himself. Now I see the ambiguity.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 16 May 2024, 10:56 last edited by
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                                  @Copper said in Butker calls it out.:

                                  @Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes

                                  Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.

                                  Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.

                                  That's funny.

                                  When I read JDs post about pontificating, I thought he was talking about himself. Now I see the ambiguity.

                                  It's nice to know that I'm a celebrity in your head. I have some memorabilia for sale if you're interested. Only slightly soiled.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 16 May 2024, 14:35 last edited by Renauda
                                    #38

                                    Pope Phibes I

                                    Has not only a ring to it, but a certain cachet or, as the French would say, je ne sais quois.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • R Renauda
                                      16 May 2024, 14:35

                                      Pope Phibes I

                                      Has not only a ring to it, but a certain cachet or, as the French would say, je ne sais quois.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 16 May 2024, 14:47 last edited by
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                                      @Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

                                      Pope Phibes I

                                      Has not only a ring to it, but a certain cachet or, as the French would say, je ne sais quois.

                                      Link to video

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 16 May 2024, 15:44 last edited by Renauda
                                        #40

                                        And it shall be written, His Esteemed Celebrated Holiness, Phibes “The Iconoclast”.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 16 May 2024, 15:54 last edited by
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                                          From his speech

                                          I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

                                          🙄

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