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Mik

@Jolly

A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs.

There was a time that a significant percentage of Western women - single, married and widowed - were on laudanum. It was cheaper than booze and readily accessible.

Only the sophistication and regulation of the substances has changed since those days.

I’d rather have laudanum.

Renauda

@Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

How is it that surrogacy - other than gay couples - itself is considered anathema among the faithful?

Pope Francis:

“I deem deplorable the practice of so-called surrogate motherhood, which represents a grave violation of the dignity of the woman and the child, based on the exploitation of situations of the mother’s material needs.”

You could argue that doing it for money is going to lead to abuse, but it's more complex than that. I know somebody whose sister carried her baby on her behalf. There was no money involved.

Yes I have heard that statement from the Bishop of Rome. Still doesn’t tell what immoral about it.

It too have a friend whose sister acted as surrogate. The family were staunch RCs.

LuFins Dad

@kluurs said in Butker calls it out.:

He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling ~~through Biden's robust economy~~.

Here’s the thing, there is very much a chicken/egg thing here. As more women entered the workplace in the 70s and 80s, there was a significant increase in the labor pool, suppressing wages. The suppressed wages forces families where the mother doesn’t want to be in the workforce into the labor pool by necessity. Now it’s generally accepted that families require two incomes.

If a sizeable portion of women chose to leave or not enter the workforce, then labor rates would have to rise as employers would have to be more competitive for qualified candidates.

Mik

Nah. We’d just open the borders again.

Copper

@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

@Doctor-Phibes

Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.

Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.

That's funny.

When I read JDs post about pontificating, I thought he was talking about himself. Now I see the ambiguity.

Renauda

@Copper

True, I know bugger all about American football, other than it has four downs not three. I do know however a tiny bit about the popularity of the Russell Crowe character in Gladiator. Sorry to learn that you see the ambiguity. Do you hear voices too? If so, you may want to have those checked out by a professional..

Doctor Phibes

@Copper said in Butker calls it out.:

@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

@Doctor-Phibes

Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.

Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.

That's funny.

When I read JDs post about pontificating, I thought he was talking about himself. Now I see the ambiguity.

It's nice to know that I'm a celebrity in your head. I have some memorabilia for sale if you're interested. Only slightly soiled.

Renauda

Pope Phibes I

Has not only a ring to it, but a certain cachet or, as the French would say, je ne sais quois.

Doctor Phibes

@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:

Pope Phibes I

Has not only a ring to it, but a certain cachet or, as the French would say, je ne sais quois.

Link to video

Renauda

And it shall be written, His ~~Esteemed~~ Celebrated Holiness, Phibes “The Iconoclast”.

taiwan_girl

From his speech

I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

Jolly

@taiwan_girl said in Butker calls it out.:

From his speech

I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

I don't find that at all. You don't believe in feminism?

taiwan_girl

@Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

@taiwan_girl said in Butker calls it out.:

From his speech

I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

I don't find that at all. You don't believe in feminism?

I just think it is weird to say that her life only started once she got married and had kids.

Dont Catholics believe that life starts at conception? So is he okay with abortion until someone gets married and has kids?
(Joke joke Joke)

Jolly

@taiwan_girl said in Butker calls it out.:

@Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

@taiwan_girl said in Butker calls it out.:

From his speech

I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

I don't find that at all. You don't believe in feminism?

I just think it is weird to say that her life only started once she got married and had kids.

Dont Catholics believe that life starts at conception? So is he okay with abortion until someone gets married and has kids?
(Joke joke Joke)

You didn't answer the question.

Renauda

Actually TG did answer the question. Quite satisfactorily given where it was leading.

taiwan_girl

@Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

You didn't answer the question.

I dont know what is the defintion is of feminism.

Jolly

How about this one:

At its core, feminism is the belief that women deserve equal social, economic, and political rights and freedoms.

Copper

@taiwan_girl said in Butker calls it out.:

I dont know what is the defintion is of feminism.

That's what happens when someone mentions the traditional roles of men and women and doesn't get an eye roll in return.

It's OK if men live their lives like men traditionally have and women live their lives like women traditionally have.

And of course if men act like women and women act like men that is absolutely wonderful too.

Renauda

@Copper

taiwan_girl

@Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

How about this one:

At its core, feminism is the belief that women deserve equal social, economic, and political rights and freedoms.

I agree with that. But he was the one who said it. But if she did say, I still think its weird.

What if one of your kids said, "Before I got married. No wait, even though i was married but didnt have kids, my life was nothing."

"So, the time you spent growing up with loving parents, the wisdom they gave you, the nurturing, etc. means nothing to you?"

"Correct. My life did not begin until I was married and had kids"

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