Butker calls it out.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:
Equating contraception, IVF and surrogacy with abortion is
asininebeyond the ability of some to understand.@Copper said in Butker calls it out.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:
Equating contraception, IVF and surrogacy with abortion is
asininebeyond the ability of some to understand.Cleverer men than I have tried...
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He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling
through Biden's robust economy.@kluurs said in Butker calls it out.:
He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling
through Biden's robust economy.I think the reason they're so pissed, is that there is some truth there for some people.
- A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs. I think that stems from not having any grounding in your place in the world.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@kluurs said in Butker calls it out.:
He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling
through Biden's robust economy.I think the reason they're so pissed, is that there is some truth there for some people.
- A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs. I think that stems from not having any grounding in your place in the world.
A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs.
There was a time that a significant percentage of Western women - single, married and widowed - were on laudanum. It was cheaper than booze and readily accessible.
Only the sophistication and regulation of the substances has changed since those days.
Elbows up!
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@Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:
@Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:
So can you, asshole.
I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.
No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.
He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.
So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.
It’s also how same sex couples are getting children, which may be also what he was getting at.
@Mik said in Butker calls it out.:
@Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:
@Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:
So can you, asshole.
I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.
No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.
He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.
So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.
It’s also how same sex couples are getting children, which may be also what he was getting at.
Bingo. Surrogacy has become a very contentious subject recently, primarily dealing with same sex couples.
The Brad
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@Mik said in Butker calls it out.:
@Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:
@Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:
So can you, asshole.
I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.
No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.
He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.
So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.
It’s also how same sex couples are getting children, which may be also what he was getting at.
Bingo. Surrogacy has become a very contentious subject recently, primarily dealing with same sex couples.
@LuFins-Dad said in Butker calls it out.:
Bingo. Surrogacy has become a very contentious subject recently, primarily dealing with sam
If he wanted to attack the gays, then he should just attack the gays. There's plenty of straight couples who've used surrogacy.
Anyway, it's probably not worth me getting too upset about. Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.
I was only joking
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How is it that surrogacy - other than gay couples - itself is considered anathema among the faithful?
@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:
How is it that surrogacy - other than gay couples - itself is considered anathema among the faithful?
Pope Francis:
“I deem deplorable the practice of so-called surrogate motherhood, which represents a grave violation of the dignity of the woman and the child, based on the exploitation of situations of the mother’s material needs.”
You could argue that doing it for money is going to lead to abuse, but it's more complex than that. I know somebody whose sister carried her baby on her behalf. There was no money involved.
I was only joking
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@LuFins-Dad said in Butker calls it out.:
Bingo. Surrogacy has become a very contentious subject recently, primarily dealing with sam
If he wanted to attack the gays, then he should just attack the gays. There's plenty of straight couples who've used surrogacy.
Anyway, it's probably not worth me getting too upset about. Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.
Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.
Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.
Elbows up!
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A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs.
There was a time that a significant percentage of Western women - single, married and widowed - were on laudanum. It was cheaper than booze and readily accessible.
Only the sophistication and regulation of the substances has changed since those days.
@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:
A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs.
There was a time that a significant percentage of Western women - single, married and widowed - were on laudanum. It was cheaper than booze and readily accessible.
Only the sophistication and regulation of the substances has changed since those days.
I’d rather have laudanum.
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@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:
How is it that surrogacy - other than gay couples - itself is considered anathema among the faithful?
Pope Francis:
“I deem deplorable the practice of so-called surrogate motherhood, which represents a grave violation of the dignity of the woman and the child, based on the exploitation of situations of the mother’s material needs.”
You could argue that doing it for money is going to lead to abuse, but it's more complex than that. I know somebody whose sister carried her baby on her behalf. There was no money involved.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:
@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:
How is it that surrogacy - other than gay couples - itself is considered anathema among the faithful?
Pope Francis:
“I deem deplorable the practice of so-called surrogate motherhood, which represents a grave violation of the dignity of the woman and the child, based on the exploitation of situations of the mother’s material needs.”
You could argue that doing it for money is going to lead to abuse, but it's more complex than that. I know somebody whose sister carried her baby on her behalf. There was no money involved.
Yes I have heard that statement from the Bishop of Rome. Still doesn’t tell what immoral about it.
It too have a friend whose sister acted as surrogate. The family were staunch RCs.
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He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling
through Biden's robust economy.@kluurs said in Butker calls it out.:
He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling
through Biden's robust economy.Here’s the thing, there is very much a chicken/egg thing here. As more women entered the workplace in the 70s and 80s, there was a significant increase in the labor pool, suppressing wages. The suppressed wages forces families where the mother doesn’t want to be in the workforce into the labor pool by necessity. Now it’s generally accepted that families require two incomes.
If a sizeable portion of women chose to leave or not enter the workforce, then labor rates would have to rise as employers would have to be more competitive for qualified candidates.
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Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.
Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.
@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:
Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.
Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.
That's funny.
When I read JDs post about pontificating, I thought he was talking about himself. Now I see the ambiguity.
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@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:
Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.
Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.
That's funny.
When I read JDs post about pontificating, I thought he was talking about himself. Now I see the ambiguity.
True, I know bugger all about American football, other than it has four downs not three. I do know however a tiny bit about the popularity of the Russell Crowe character in Gladiator. Sorry to learn that you see the ambiguity. Do you hear voices too? If so, you may want to have those checked out by a professional..
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@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:
Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.
Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.
That's funny.
When I read JDs post about pontificating, I thought he was talking about himself. Now I see the ambiguity.
@Copper said in Butker calls it out.:
@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:
Just another know-it-all celebrity pontificating about things outside his area of expertise.
Yes but he’s not some low IQ artist, actor, writer or musician. Rather he’s a professional athlete, specifically an All Star American football player, a modern day Maximus Decimus. A genuine crowd pleaser.
That's funny.
When I read JDs post about pontificating, I thought he was talking about himself. Now I see the ambiguity.
It's nice to know that I'm a celebrity in your head. I have some memorabilia for sale if you're interested. Only slightly soiled.
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Pope Phibes I
Has not only a ring to it, but a certain cachet or, as the French would say, je ne sais quois.
@Renauda said in Butker calls it out.:
Link to videoPope Phibes I
Has not only a ring to it, but a certain cachet or, as the French would say, je ne sais quois.
