Excess Deaths
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wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 13:37 last edited by
Of note:
Look at the UK compared with other "First World Countries."
Makes Sweden and the US look good.
And then, there's Israel, Norway and Iceland.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 13:42 last edited by
Sweden establishes that it doesn't matter what you do. Now let's stop with all the judging and giggling.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 13:55 last edited by
Excess lost years of life is an important ignored concept.
A person who dies 7 months sooner than they would have is much different than 50 years. This analysis is silent on that.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 13:57 last edited by
Righteous shaming of those who countenance such ideas is enough to silence them. Heck, we can't even get past using global IFRs rather than age stratified. It's not that people are too dumb to know the difference, it's that they're too ideologically motivated.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 13:58 last edited by jon-nyc
Hahahahaha. As if any amount of righteous shaming would shut you up.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 15:24 last edited by
Excess people will be counseled at the ethical suicide parlor
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Of note:
Look at the UK compared with other "First World Countries."
Makes Sweden and the US look good.
And then, there's Israel, Norway and Iceland.
wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 16:01 last edited by Doctor Phibes@George-K said in Excess Deaths:
Of note:
Look at the UK compared with other "First World Countries."
Makes Sweden and the US look good.
And then, there's Israel, Norway and Iceland.
That bloke yesterday was saying Britain was doing better than the US. What a difference day makes - and actual data rather than some bloke pontificating.
The UK really fucked up the nursing home situation.
Not to make things too personal, but I was over there in March. My mum was in hospital with a broken hip, and was moved to a nursing home with apparently no consideration whatsoever towards Covid. I was quite surprised at the time, and more than a little concerned. They locked everything down a week later, but I guess too late for many.
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Sweden establishes that it doesn't matter what you do. Now let's stop with all the judging and giggling.
wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 16:07 last edited by@Horace said in Excess Deaths:
Sweden establishes that it doesn't matter what you do.
If you compare Sweden with it's immediate neighbours that's not necessarily true.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 16:10 last edited by
I think there are far more things in play in these statistics than shutdown or not. Awfully difficult to judge them.
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I think there are far more things in play in these statistics than shutdown or not. Awfully difficult to judge them.
wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 16:19 last edited by@Mik said in Excess Deaths:
I think there are far more things in play in these statistics than shutdown or not. Awfully difficult to judge them.
Yes, this is clearly true.
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@George-K said in Excess Deaths:
Of note:
Look at the UK compared with other "First World Countries."
Makes Sweden and the US look good.
And then, there's Israel, Norway and Iceland.
That bloke yesterday was saying Britain was doing better than the US. What a difference day makes - and actual data rather than some bloke pontificating.
The UK really fucked up the nursing home situation.
Not to make things too personal, but I was over there in March. My mum was in hospital with a broken hip, and was moved to a nursing home with apparently no consideration whatsoever towards Covid. I was quite surprised at the time, and more than a little concerned. They locked everything down a week later, but I guess too late for many.
wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 16:19 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Excess Deaths:
That bloke yesterday was saying Britain was doing better than the US.
A couple of months ago, when US cases started to spike, he tweeted "American exceptionalism."
That didn't age well, did it?
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wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 16:52 last edited by Doctor Phibes
Nobody likes a smug limey.
Or so I've heard.
