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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    alt text

    Of note:

    Look at the UK compared with other "First World Countries."

    Makes Sweden and the US look good.

    And then, there's Israel, Norway and Iceland.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      Sweden establishes that it doesn't matter what you do. Now let's stop with all the judging and giggling.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Loki
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        Excess lost years of life is an important ignored concept.

        A person who dies 7 months sooner than they would have is much different than 50 years. This analysis is silent on that.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          Righteous shaming of those who countenance such ideas is enough to silence them. Heck, we can't even get past using global IFRs rather than age stratified. It's not that people are too dumb to know the difference, it's that they're too ideologically motivated.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #5

            Hahahahaha. As if any amount of righteous shaming would shut you up.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Excess people will be counseled at the ethical suicide parlor

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              • George KG George K

                alt text

                Of note:

                Look at the UK compared with other "First World Countries."

                Makes Sweden and the US look good.

                And then, there's Israel, Norway and Iceland.

                Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #7

                @George-K said in Excess Deaths:

                Of note:

                Look at the UK compared with other "First World Countries."

                Makes Sweden and the US look good.

                And then, there's Israel, Norway and Iceland.

                That bloke yesterday was saying Britain was doing better than the US. What a difference day makes - and actual data rather than some bloke pontificating.

                The UK really fucked up the nursing home situation.

                Not to make things too personal, but I was over there in March. My mum was in hospital with a broken hip, and was moved to a nursing home with apparently no consideration whatsoever towards Covid. I was quite surprised at the time, and more than a little concerned. They locked everything down a week later, but I guess too late for many.

                I was only joking

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  Sweden establishes that it doesn't matter what you do. Now let's stop with all the judging and giggling.

                  Doctor PhibesD Online
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  @Horace said in Excess Deaths:

                  Sweden establishes that it doesn't matter what you do.

                  If you compare Sweden with it's immediate neighbours that's not necessarily true.

                  I was only joking

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    I think there are far more things in play in these statistics than shutdown or not. Awfully difficult to judge them.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      I think there are far more things in play in these statistics than shutdown or not. Awfully difficult to judge them.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      @Mik said in Excess Deaths:

                      I think there are far more things in play in these statistics than shutdown or not. Awfully difficult to judge them.

                      Yes, this is clearly true.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @George-K said in Excess Deaths:

                        Of note:

                        Look at the UK compared with other "First World Countries."

                        Makes Sweden and the US look good.

                        And then, there's Israel, Norway and Iceland.

                        That bloke yesterday was saying Britain was doing better than the US. What a difference day makes - and actual data rather than some bloke pontificating.

                        The UK really fucked up the nursing home situation.

                        Not to make things too personal, but I was over there in March. My mum was in hospital with a broken hip, and was moved to a nursing home with apparently no consideration whatsoever towards Covid. I was quite surprised at the time, and more than a little concerned. They locked everything down a week later, but I guess too late for many.

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                        George K
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Excess Deaths:

                        That bloke yesterday was saying Britain was doing better than the US.

                        A couple of months ago, when US cases started to spike, he tweeted "American exceptionalism."

                        That didn't age well, did it?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          #12

                          Nobody likes a smug limey.

                          Or so I've heard.

                          I was only joking

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