Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud
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Not possible. It is only Democrats who do election fraud.
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Not possible. It is only Democrats who do election fraud.
@taiwan_girl said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
Not possible. It is only Democrats who do election fraud.
They must be RINO's. I'm sure Trump is going to be all over these crooks demanding they be locked up.
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How dumb must Republicans be? The entire 2020 election was stolen and they haven’t been able to prove it, whereas the only Republicans in the entire country to cheat get caught like this.
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Don't forget that after all the audits of the 2020 election... republicans were substantially more fraudulent than the democrats. Don't tell Trump, though. Even recounts proved more votes for Biden once the recounts were complete. And this is not something I want, as a conservative.
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Don't forget that after all the audits of the 2020 election... republicans were substantially more fraudulent than the democrats. Don't tell Trump, though. Even recounts proved more votes for Biden once the recounts were complete. And this is not something I want, as a conservative.
@89th said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
Don't forget that after all the audits of the 2020 election... republicans were substantially more fraudulent than the democrats. Don't tell Trump, though. Even recounts proved more votes for Biden once the recounts were complete. And this is not something I want, as a conservative.
There's a perception, obviously promulgated by Republicans, that pretty much all the fraud is Democrat. It's never made sense to me. This idea that God separates lefties and righties and there's somehow a fundamental difference in our makeup is extremely silly.
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@89th said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
Don't forget that after all the audits of the 2020 election... republicans were substantially more fraudulent than the democrats. Don't tell Trump, though. Even recounts proved more votes for Biden once the recounts were complete. And this is not something I want, as a conservative.
There's a perception, obviously promulgated by Republicans, that pretty much all the fraud is Democrat. It's never made sense to me. This idea that God separates lefties and righties and there's somehow a fundamental difference in our makeup is extremely silly.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
@89th said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
Don't forget that after all the audits of the 2020 election... republicans were substantially more fraudulent than the democrats. Don't tell Trump, though. Even recounts proved more votes for Biden once the recounts were complete. And this is not something I want, as a conservative.
There's a perception, obviously promulgated by Republicans, that pretty much all the fraud is Democrat. It's never made sense to me. This idea that God separates lefties and righties and there's somehow a fundamental difference in our makeup is extremely silly.
Exactly!!! Niether side has some sort of "moral superiority" just because of which party they follow.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
@89th said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
Don't forget that after all the audits of the 2020 election... republicans were substantially more fraudulent than the democrats. Don't tell Trump, though. Even recounts proved more votes for Biden once the recounts were complete. And this is not something I want, as a conservative.
There's a perception, obviously promulgated by Republicans, that pretty much all the fraud is Democrat. It's never made sense to me. This idea that God separates lefties and righties and there's somehow a fundamental difference in our makeup is extremely silly.
Exactly!!! Niether side has some sort of "moral superiority" just because of which party they follow.
@taiwan_girl said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
@89th said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
Don't forget that after all the audits of the 2020 election... republicans were substantially more fraudulent than the democrats. Don't tell Trump, though. Even recounts proved more votes for Biden once the recounts were complete. And this is not something I want, as a conservative.
There's a perception, obviously promulgated by Republicans, that pretty much all the fraud is Democrat. It's never made sense to me. This idea that God separates lefties and righties and there's somehow a fundamental difference in our makeup is extremely silly.
Exactly!!! Niether side has some sort of "moral superiority" just because of which party they follow.
And here's where you're wrong... Yes, there are bad people on both sides. If voter fraud is easily done, it will happen. I've told the story more than once how a small group of us rigged a university election. With a voting machine, not paper ballots.
But...The massive fraud usually occurs in large cities, almost all with longstanding Democrat machines. The vote dumps usually occur in the wee hours of the morning, after the machine knows what is needed to win an election. It is time-tested, well-financed and well-oiled. And effective. They aren't stupid enough to leave a discernible trail and they don't crow about their methods. But I was raised in Louisiana, where vote buying and rigged elections were common. Still are, in some parishes. I suspect George has his own stories about Chicago or Aqua could chime in about Baltimore. Larry used to rail about Atlanta, too.
So, while there are bad people on both sides, which side is most effective at cheating in significant state-wide or national elections?
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@taiwan_girl said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
@89th said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
Don't forget that after all the audits of the 2020 election... republicans were substantially more fraudulent than the democrats. Don't tell Trump, though. Even recounts proved more votes for Biden once the recounts were complete. And this is not something I want, as a conservative.
There's a perception, obviously promulgated by Republicans, that pretty much all the fraud is Democrat. It's never made sense to me. This idea that God separates lefties and righties and there's somehow a fundamental difference in our makeup is extremely silly.
Exactly!!! Niether side has some sort of "moral superiority" just because of which party they follow.
And here's where you're wrong... Yes, there are bad people on both sides. If voter fraud is easily done, it will happen. I've told the story more than once how a small group of us rigged a university election. With a voting machine, not paper ballots.
But...The massive fraud usually occurs in large cities, almost all with longstanding Democrat machines. The vote dumps usually occur in the wee hours of the morning, after the machine knows what is needed to win an election. It is time-tested, well-financed and well-oiled. And effective. They aren't stupid enough to leave a discernible trail and they don't crow about their methods. But I was raised in Louisiana, where vote buying and rigged elections were common. Still are, in some parishes. I suspect George has his own stories about Chicago or Aqua could chime in about Baltimore. Larry used to rail about Atlanta, too.
So, while there are bad people on both sides, which side is most effective at cheating in significant state-wide or national elections?
@Jolly said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
I suspect George has his own stories about Chicago
Not really...
But, I had lunch with a former partner of mine last week. He grew up on the south side, and was a firefighter for a while. We talked about the upcoming election, and he told me how it works in Chicago (where, I should add, I only lived for about 4 years - in the city limits, that is).
Here's what Jim explained.
Every precinct has a list of registered voters. When you come in to vote, your ID (yeah, ID) is checked against the list, and there's a checkmark placed next to it by the election judge. Around lunchtime, the list is checked to see who hasn't voted, and people are mobilized.
"Hey, Mrs. O'Leary! I just noticed that you haven't voted yet this year. I'd be happy to drive you down to the polling place so you could cast your vote, for whomever you wish, of course. And afterward, there's going to be a late luncheon hosted by the alderman. Can I take you down there? I have some other visits to make as well if that's OK."
And then after the election, the alderman, councilman or whatever would hold a big dinner for everyone in the precinct.
Let's say you need something done. This happened to Jim.
"Hey, Jim! How are things around the neighborhood?"
"Ah, pretty good, alderman. But, you know, I've got some runoff from the alley into my garage. Perhaps you could get some gravel thrown down so it wouldn't be so bad?"
"Jimmy, you don't need gravel. You need a SEWER."
And just...like...that, the alley was being torn up and a new sewer was being put in.
"Jim, can I count on your support in the next election?"
"Sure can."
Couple of months later...
"Jim, the alderman is holding a golf tournament for the folks in the precinct. Can I put you down for a contribution to support the tourney? Would $250 be OK?"
"Put me down to sponsor a hole...."
It's the Chicago way.
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The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@taiwan_girl said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
@89th said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
Don't forget that after all the audits of the 2020 election... republicans were substantially more fraudulent than the democrats. Don't tell Trump, though. Even recounts proved more votes for Biden once the recounts were complete. And this is not something I want, as a conservative.
There's a perception, obviously promulgated by Republicans, that pretty much all the fraud is Democrat. It's never made sense to me. This idea that God separates lefties and righties and there's somehow a fundamental difference in our makeup is extremely silly.
Exactly!!! Niether side has some sort of "moral superiority" just because of which party they follow.
And here's where you're wrong... Yes, there are bad people on both sides. If voter fraud is easily done, it will happen. I've told the story more than once how a small group of us rigged a university election. With a voting machine, not paper ballots.
But...The massive fraud usually occurs in large cities, almost all with longstanding Democrat machines. The vote dumps usually occur in the wee hours of the morning, after the machine knows what is needed to win an election. It is time-tested, well-financed and well-oiled. And effective. They aren't stupid enough to leave a discernible trail and they don't crow about their methods. But I was raised in Louisiana, where vote buying and rigged elections were common. Still are, in some parishes. I suspect George has his own stories about Chicago or Aqua could chime in about Baltimore. Larry used to rail about Atlanta, too.
So, while there are bad people on both sides, which side is most effective at cheating in significant state-wide or national elections?
The vote dumps usually occur in the wee hours of the morning, after the machine knows what is needed to win an election. It is time-tested, well-financed and well-oiled. And effective. They aren't stupid enough to leave a discernible trail and they don't crow about their methods. But I was raised in Louisiana, where vote buying and rigged elections were common. Still are, in some parishes.
Doesn’t say much for Louisiana, does it?
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@Jolly said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
I suspect George has his own stories about Chicago
Not really...
But, I had lunch with a former partner of mine last week. He grew up on the south side, and was a firefighter for a while. We talked about the upcoming election, and he told me how it works in Chicago (where, I should add, I only lived for about 4 years - in the city limits, that is).
Here's what Jim explained.
Every precinct has a list of registered voters. When you come in to vote, your ID (yeah, ID) is checked against the list, and there's a checkmark placed next to it by the election judge. Around lunchtime, the list is checked to see who hasn't voted, and people are mobilized.
"Hey, Mrs. O'Leary! I just noticed that you haven't voted yet this year. I'd be happy to drive you down to the polling place so you could cast your vote, for whomever you wish, of course. And afterward, there's going to be a late luncheon hosted by the alderman. Can I take you down there? I have some other visits to make as well if that's OK."
And then after the election, the alderman, councilman or whatever would hold a big dinner for everyone in the precinct.
Let's say you need something done. This happened to Jim.
"Hey, Jim! How are things around the neighborhood?"
"Ah, pretty good, alderman. But, you know, I've got some runoff from the alley into my garage. Perhaps you could get some gravel thrown down so it wouldn't be so bad?"
"Jimmy, you don't need gravel. You need a SEWER."
And just...like...that, the alley was being torn up and a new sewer was being put in.
"Jim, can I count on your support in the next election?"
"Sure can."
Couple of months later...
"Jim, the alderman is holding a golf tournament for the folks in the precinct. Can I put you down for a contribution to support the tourney? Would $250 be OK?"
"Put me down to sponsor a hole...."
It's the Chicago way.
@George-K said in Charges brought in Arizona for 2020 election fraud:
It's the Chicago way.
I think that is politics in general. 555
Promise voters/reward voters so that they vote for you.
