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What’s happening at Columbia?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Hamas is a terrorist organization. While foreign students should have a level of free speech in this country, the protests at Columbia crossed the line quite some time ago. They've advocated terrorism, they have intimidated Jewish students and they have disrupted classes and student attendance. And they have damaged school property.

    Time for some agitators to go.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      The devil is in the details. We don’t single out individuals for what the crowd did just because they’re on student visas so they’re easier to punish. We need to figure out what they actually did themselves.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        #339

        I think that Jolly is correct.

        In this case, they take a "high profile" person and make the example.

        Pretty common to do this I think. (IRS going after celebrity tax cheater, etc.)

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          Right but let’s make sure the tax cheating actually occurred and not just ‘he was a vocal member of a group that included tax cheats’.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Right but let’s make sure the tax cheating actually occurred and not just ‘he was a vocal member of a group that included tax cheats’.

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            @jon-nyc Agree, but in my admitted small research, he was one of the leaders that led the protest that damaged buildings, blocked other going in, etc.

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              jon-nyc
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              #342

              What crimes has he been charged with?

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                I’m with the medical researchers, obviously.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • MikM Offline
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                  Yeah, I'm with the medical researchers too, for obvious reasons. But I have no quarrel with deporting said individual.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Could be getting close to a Time Of Choosing.

                    Is this student supporting terrorism and the eradication of Jews more important than the research the faculty is doing or their jobs?

                    Choose.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/columbia-student-protests-suspended-d5a76974

                      Columbia University suspended 65 students involved in a pro-Palestinian protest Wednesday that took over part of the school’s main library.

                      The students won’t be able to take their final exams or enter campus except to access their dorms. Seniors won’t be able to participate in graduation ceremonies, a school official said.

                      Columbia barred 33 other people from campus, including students from other colleges and alumni who took part in the protest.

                      “When rules are violated and when our academic community is purposefully disrupted, that is a considered choice—one with real consequences,” a Columbia spokesperson said.

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                        https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-authorities-arrest-palestinian-student-protester-columbia-university-students-2025-03-09/

                        U.S. immigration agents arrested a Palestinian graduate student who has played a prominent role in pro-Palestinian protests at New York's Columbia University, the student workers' labor union said on Sunday.

                        The student, Mahmoud Khalil at the university's School of International and Public Affairs, was arrested by U.S. Department of Homeland Security agents at his university residence on Saturday, the Student Workers of Columbia union said in a statement.

                        Khalil's detention appears to be one of the first efforts by U.S. President Donald Trump, a Republican who returned to the White House in January, to fulfill his promise to seek the deportation of some foreign students involved in the pro-Palestinian protest movement. The Hamas attack on Israel in October 2023 and subsequent Israeli assault on Gaza have led to months of pro-Palestinian protests that have roiled U.S. college campuses.

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                        @taiwan_girl said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                        https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-authorities-arrest-palestinian-student-protester-columbia-university-students-2025-03-09/

                        U.S. immigration agents arrested a Palestinian graduate student who has played a prominent role in pro-Palestinian protests at New York's Columbia University, the student workers' labor union said on Sunday.

                        The student, Mahmoud Khalil at the university's School of International and Public Affairs, was arrested by U.S. Department of Homeland Security agents at his university residence on Saturday, the Student Workers of Columbia union said in a statement.

                        Khalil's detention appears to be one of the first efforts by U.S. President Donald Trump, a Republican who returned to the White House in January, to fulfill his promise to seek the deportation of some foreign students involved in the pro-Palestinian protest movement. The Hamas attack on Israel in October 2023 and subsequent Israeli assault on Gaza have led to months of pro-Palestinian protests that have roiled U.S. college campuses.

                        He was in court yesterday

                        Over roughly three hours of testimony in a central Louisiana immigration court on Thursday, the student organizer, Palestinian rights advocate and prisoner Mahmoud Khalil described his extraordinary, ordinary life.

                        He recounted growing up in a Palestinian refugee camp in Syria, before fleeing the country to Lebanon as activist friends were "disappeared." Much later, he built a new life at Columbia University in New York, where he planned a career in diplomacy, got married and took part in cinema and hiking clubs.

                        He said he could not have predicted the U.S. then detaining him for months, in what he and his lawyers view as retaliation for his political beliefs — a situation much like the one he once feared in Syria.

                        and

                        Immigration Judge Jamee Comans limited testimony and argument to Khalil's application for asylum. She dismissed several motions without oral explanation, including a renewed motion by Khalil's attorneys to have the case thrown out over alleged misstatements by the government.

                        At times, she seemed to have little patience for the case, castigating his lawyers for putting on experts to "regurgitate" their written reports. But she appeared to listen carefully to Khalil's testimony throughout the afternoon.

                        Comans did not rule on the case Thursday, which she said includes nearly 2,000 pages of evidence. Lawyers will provide written closing arguments which are due on June 2. A ruling is then likely within the next few weeks.

                        Comans has consistently ruled against Khalil so far. In a prior hearing in April, Comans found that DHS has grounds to deport Khalil under an obscure provision of immigration law, solely because Secretary of State Marco Rubio deemed him a threat to U.S. foreign policy interests.

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