What’s happening at Columbia?
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@89th said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
You know, this is pretty mild compared to 1970.
I suspect many universities have no problem issuing permits.
Maybe they need to bring back something like Free Speech Alley that existed at LSU back in Carville's day. The alley was a space between two buildings, designated as a full free speech zone. As long as you didn't lay hands on somebody, scream in their face or use electronic sound enforcement, advocate for whatever you wanted. If you wanted to avoid the silliness, just avoid the area.
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@89th said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
You know, this is pretty mild compared to 1970.
I suspect many universities have no problem issuing permits.
Maybe they need to bring back something like Free Speech Alley that existed at LSU back in Carville's day. The alley was a space between two buildings, designated as a full free speech zone. As long as you didn't lay hands on somebody, scream in their face or use electronic sound enforcement, advocate for whatever you wanted. If you wanted to avoid the silliness, just avoid the area.
@Jolly I like it. Probably would require constant police on hand for inevitable physical altercations, but is a nice (real) example of free speech.... say what you want, just don't hurt someone physically (including excessive sound/visual weapons).
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@Jolly I like it. Probably would require constant police on hand for inevitable physical altercations, but is a nice (real) example of free speech.... say what you want, just don't hurt someone physically (including excessive sound/visual weapons).
@89th said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
@Jolly I like it. Probably would require constant police on hand for inevitable physical altercations, but is a nice (real) example of free speech.... say what you want, just don't hurt someone physically (including excessive sound/visual weapons).
They almost always had campus police in the area. LSU campus police are not rent-a-cops. They go through the state police academy and have full arresting powers. So usually trouble got stopped before it started.
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@taiwan_girl said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Link to video@Jolly @89th Agree with you both. Isnt there that famous "speakers corner" in London where just this sort of thing is set up?
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U.S. immigration agents arrested a Palestinian graduate student who has played a prominent role in pro-Palestinian protests at New York's Columbia University, the student workers' labor union said on Sunday.
The student, Mahmoud Khalil at the university's School of International and Public Affairs, was arrested by U.S. Department of Homeland Security agents at his university residence on Saturday, the Student Workers of Columbia union said in a statement.
Khalil's detention appears to be one of the first efforts by U.S. President Donald Trump, a Republican who returned to the White House in January, to fulfill his promise to seek the deportation of some foreign students involved in the pro-Palestinian protest movement. The Hamas attack on Israel in October 2023 and subsequent Israeli assault on Gaza have led to months of pro-Palestinian protests that have roiled U.S. college campuses.
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Talked to my friend in leadership there last night. Apparently they were told if they sued they’d cut off student aid funds too. But they’re going to cooperate. They’re supposed to release a statement Wednesday (at least that was their plan as of yesterday).
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Hamas is a terrorist organization. While foreign students should have a level of free speech in this country, the protests at Columbia crossed the line quite some time ago. They've advocated terrorism, they have intimidated Jewish students and they have disrupted classes and student attendance. And they have damaged school property.
Time for some agitators to go.
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I think that Jolly is correct.
In this case, they take a "high profile" person and make the example.
Pretty common to do this I think. (IRS going after celebrity tax cheater, etc.)
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Right but let’s make sure the tax cheating actually occurred and not just ‘he was a vocal member of a group that included tax cheats’.
@jon-nyc Agree, but in my admitted small research, he was one of the leaders that led the protest that damaged buildings, blocked other going in, etc.
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https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/columbia-student-protests-suspended-d5a76974
Columbia University suspended 65 students involved in a pro-Palestinian protest Wednesday that took over part of the school’s main library.
The students won’t be able to take their final exams or enter campus except to access their dorms. Seniors won’t be able to participate in graduation ceremonies, a school official said.
Columbia barred 33 other people from campus, including students from other colleges and alumni who took part in the protest.
“When rules are violated and when our academic community is purposefully disrupted, that is a considered choice—one with real consequences,” a Columbia spokesperson said.
