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    Renauda
    wrote on 30 Apr 2024, 23:09 last edited by Renauda
    #152

    Let them dehydrate and starve.

    Freeze their bank accounts too. When they realize they have lost access to money they’ll come out with their hands up.

    Elbows up!

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      Mik
      wrote on 30 Apr 2024, 23:16 last edited by
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      No sympathy whatsoever. These kids embody white privilege.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 30 Apr 2024, 23:30 last edited by
        #154

        https://wapo.st/44n2PRy

        Very nice graphics to help visualize "how pro-Palestinian college protests have grown."

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          George K
          wrote on 30 Apr 2024, 23:49 last edited by
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          Perhaps the Washington Post could have labeled it "How anti-Israeli college protests have grown."

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 30 Apr 2024, 23:58 last edited by
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            If these were Hitler Youth protesting Jews, wonder how long it would take to shut this down?

            Better yet, label them January 6 protesters...At least then we'd have the bulk of the FBI working all camera shots and social media available...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • G George K
              30 Apr 2024, 23:49

              Perhaps the Washington Post could have labeled it "How anti-Israeli college protests have grown."

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 1 May 2024, 00:08 last edited by
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              @George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

              Perhaps the Washington Post could have labeled it "How anti-Israeli college protests have grown."

              Isn’t Pro-Palestinian worse than Anti-Israel? I mean, by definition Pro-Palestinian is anti-Israel, then add on pro-inbreeding, pro-spousal rape, pro-killing gays, pro-patriarchal societies, pro-raping and killing civilians…

              I mean, being ProPalestine means being for some really sick shit.

              The Brad

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              • J Jolly
                30 Apr 2024, 23:58

                If these were Hitler Youth protesting Jews, wonder how long it would take to shut this down?

                Better yet, label them January 6 protesters...At least then we'd have the bulk of the FBI working all camera shots and social media available...

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 1 May 2024, 00:09 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                If these were Hitler Youth protesting Jews, wonder how long it would take to shut this down?

                Better yet, label them January 6 protesters...At least then we'd have the bulk of the FBI working all camera shots and social media available...

                This is Hitler Youth protesting Jews…

                The Brad

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                  George K
                  wrote on 1 May 2024, 00:45 last edited by
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                  Umm, considering the breadth of these "protests" why isn't the FBI looking at this coordination as a RICO violation?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    1 May 2024, 00:08

                    @George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                    Perhaps the Washington Post could have labeled it "How anti-Israeli college protests have grown."

                    Isn’t Pro-Palestinian worse than Anti-Israel? I mean, by definition Pro-Palestinian is anti-Israel, then add on pro-inbreeding, pro-spousal rape, pro-killing gays, pro-patriarchal societies, pro-raping and killing civilians…

                    I mean, being ProPalestine means being for some really sick shit.

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 1 May 2024, 01:41 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                    Isn’t Pro-Palestinian worse than Anti-Israel? I mean, by definition Pro-Palestinian is anti-Israel, then add on pro-inbreeding, pro-spousal rape, pro-killing gays, pro-patriarchal societies, pro-raping and killing civilians…

                    I mean, being ProPalestine means being for some really sick shit.

                    That's an important question. I have read articles critical of these campus protests use the term "pro-Hamas", which seems like a strawman switcharoo. Not many articles actually report what exactly the protesters protest against. It's possible that different individual protesters protests against different things. (I also haven't look into this detail, frankly I haven't follow this campus protest stuff all that closely.)

                    They way you approach this, equating "pro-Palestine" with "pro-[a bunch of other things you do not approve of]," supposedly the same can be applied to "pro-Israel"; e.g., "pro-taking/occupation of land by force," "pro-bombing hospitals," "pro-bombing civilians," "pro-mass displacement of civilians," etc. An approach conducive to neither truth, peace, nor understanding.

                    As it is, I am not even sure "pro-Palestine" is an accurate characterization of these campus protests, but I do not object to you using that term for the simple reason that you were responding to the WaPo article that uses that term.

                    Maybe some news org will get around to sampling and tabulating the many different things that the protesters are protesting against and create some nice graphics to help visualize the issues being protested.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 1 May 2024, 01:49 last edited by
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                      NYPD just chunked them out of Hamilton Hall and loaded them on police busses.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 1 May 2024, 01:51 last edited by
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                        BTW, The Dersh just issued a challenge...ANY Jewish student at Columbia that feels he has been physically threatened and his civil rights have been abridged, call Dersh and he will represent them pro bono.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          1 May 2024, 01:49

                          NYPD just chunked them out of Hamilton Hall and loaded them on police busses.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 1 May 2024, 01:55 last edited by
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                          @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                          NYPD just chunked them out of Hamilton Hall and loaded them on police busses.

                          Awesome. Would love to know the numbers at any school for how many kids are expelled or similarly punished. I recall kids in my undergrad getting in trouble for wayyyyyy less.

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                            1 May 2024, 01:55

                            @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                            NYPD just chunked them out of Hamilton Hall and loaded them on police busses.

                            Awesome. Would love to know the numbers at any school for how many kids are expelled or similarly punished. I recall kids in my undergrad getting in trouble for wayyyyyy less.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 1 May 2024, 02:05 last edited by
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                            @89th how many of these who were arrested do you think our students at Columbia? For that matter, how many do you think are actually residents of New York?

                            Asking of course, for a friend.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 1 May 2024, 02:40 last edited by
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                              Less than half.

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 1 May 2024, 02:43 last edited by
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                                Wonder if Bragg charges them?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • J Jolly
                                  1 May 2024, 01:51

                                  BTW, The Dersh just issued a challenge...ANY Jewish student at Columbia that feels he has been physically threatened and his civil rights have been abridged, call Dersh and he will represent them pro bono.

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                                  Jolly
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                                  @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                  BTW, The Dersh just issued a challenge...ANY Jewish student at Columbia that feels he has been physically threatened and his civil rights have been abridged, call Dersh and he will represent them pro bono.

                                  Update...Dersh now says he has been contacted by 12 attorneys offering to help. He is now asking for specific names

                                  This could be fun...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    1 May 2024, 02:05

                                    @89th how many of these who were arrested do you think our students at Columbia? For that matter, how many do you think are actually residents of New York?

                                    Asking of course, for a friend.

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                                    wrote on 1 May 2024, 03:21 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                    @89th how many of these who were arrested do you think our students at Columbia? For that matter, how many do you think are actually residents of New York?

                                    Asking of course, for a friend.

                                    I believe in Justice, but I also believe in being fair.

                                    All people arrested at Columbia should be arraigned and charged. But...I think student protesters should be charged with appropriate misdemeanors. Non-students should be held to a higher standard and charged accordingly. Paid-for organizers need to have the book thrown at them. And the agitators who paid for this silliness need to lose some serious money.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      1 May 2024, 01:41

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                      Isn’t Pro-Palestinian worse than Anti-Israel? I mean, by definition Pro-Palestinian is anti-Israel, then add on pro-inbreeding, pro-spousal rape, pro-killing gays, pro-patriarchal societies, pro-raping and killing civilians…

                                      I mean, being ProPalestine means being for some really sick shit.

                                      That's an important question. I have read articles critical of these campus protests use the term "pro-Hamas", which seems like a strawman switcharoo. Not many articles actually report what exactly the protesters protest against. It's possible that different individual protesters protests against different things. (I also haven't look into this detail, frankly I haven't follow this campus protest stuff all that closely.)

                                      They way you approach this, equating "pro-Palestine" with "pro-[a bunch of other things you do not approve of]," supposedly the same can be applied to "pro-Israel"; e.g., "pro-taking/occupation of land by force," "pro-bombing hospitals," "pro-bombing civilians," "pro-mass displacement of civilians," etc. An approach conducive to neither truth, peace, nor understanding.

                                      As it is, I am not even sure "pro-Palestine" is an accurate characterization of these campus protests, but I do not object to you using that term for the simple reason that you were responding to the WaPo article that uses that term.

                                      Maybe some news org will get around to sampling and tabulating the many different things that the protesters are protesting against and create some nice graphics to help visualize the issues being protested.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 1 May 2024, 03:35 last edited by
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                                      @Axtremus said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                      They way you approach this, equating "pro-Palestine" with "pro-[a bunch of other things you do not approve of]," supposedly the same can be applied to "pro-Israel"; e.g., "pro-taking/occupation of land by force," "pro-bombing hospitals," "pro-bombing civilians," "pro-mass displacement of civilians," etc. An approach conducive to neither truth, peace, nor understanding.

                                      No, the same cannot be applied. The points that I brought up about Palestine are all completely separate from anything dealing with Israel and any threat the citizens would face from Israel. If Israel didn’t exist, Palestinians would be throwing gays from roofs. They would be subjugating their women. Israel has nothing to do with the rape culture in Palestine. All of the things you try to point out as counters aren’t. Those are National Security decisions. Israel doesn’t bomb hospitals, they attack missile batteries and bases. That the enemy chooses to hide those batteries and bases in hospitals and use schoolchildren as human shields does not reflect badly on Israel, but must purely be blamed on the Palestinians.

                                      The Brad

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                                        1 May 2024, 02:43

                                        Wonder if Bragg charges them?

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 1 May 2024, 11:54 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                        Wonder if Bragg charges them?

                                        Andy McCarthy on the arrests and charges:

                                        "That's all well and good, but the question is: Will Bragg prosecute them? After all, it's not like they falsified their business records or anything ..."

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 1 May 2024, 11:57 last edited by
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                                          Supposedly, at UCLA a Jewish girl was beaten unconscious.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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