What’s happening at Columbia?
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In 1968 American kids were dying in Vietnam. Gazans are dying primarily because they supported, directly or indirectly, genocidal maniacs who see the deaths as fodder for their hatred. They love their grudges more than their children. There’s no legitimate comparison.
@Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
In 1968 American kids were dying in Vietnam. Gazans are dying primarily because they supported, directly or indirectly, genocidal maniacs who see the deaths as fodder for their hatred. They love their grudges more than their children. There’s no legitimate comparison.
I'm not drawing a comparison between the motivations of the two groups. Clearly they are different, as you point out.
Simply saying that if you think the mayhem at the universities is something, just you wait.
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The college left yearns to be part of a 1968 college protest level movement. One day they’ll grow up.
@89th said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
The college left yearns to be part of a 1968 college protest level movement. One day they’ll grow up.
That used to be true. It's what the boomers did.
But you tend to grow up when you've a stake in something. Very much unlike boomers, today's kids grow up with dwindling job prospects, lower marriage rates, later marriages for those who marry at all, far fewer who have children, and no reasonable possibility of owning a home.
Bootstrap platitudes don't really cut it.
Please love yourself.
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Enact Sharia law on campus. Just on the protest area…
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@89th said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
The college left yearns to be part of a 1968 college protest level movement. One day they’ll grow up.
That used to be true. It's what the boomers did.
But you tend to grow up when you've a stake in something. Very much unlike boomers, today's kids grow up with dwindling job prospects, lower marriage rates, later marriages for those who marry at all, far fewer who have children, and no reasonable possibility of owning a home.
Bootstrap platitudes don't really cut it.
@Aqua-Letifer said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
… and no reasonable possibility of owning a home.
So when the boomers and gen Xers die the homes will remain empty?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
… and no reasonable possibility of owning a home.
So when the boomers and gen Xers die the homes will remain empty?
@jon-nyc said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
@Aqua-Letifer said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
… and no reasonable possibility of owning a home.
So when the boomers and gen Xers die the homes will remain empty?
Around here, they're taken over by companies, converted to AirBnBs or some other nonsense that equates to not a new family owning them.
Show me numbers that it's not much harder now to own a home in terms of availability, mortgages, cost of living and income.
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It’s harder but the idea of ‘no reasonable expectation’ for an entire generation seems rather impossible.
@jon-nyc said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
It’s harder but the idea of ‘no reasonable expectation’ for an entire generation seems rather impossible.
I think it's silly for anyone younger to expect it so I'm sticking with my assessment.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Anybody else find it amusing that these students are protesting Israel by building illegal settlements?
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@George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
I'm kind of conflicted. If Megyn Kelly doesn't like them surely they can't be all that bad.
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FAFO:
https://apnews.com/article/student-protest-gaza-war-arrest-amnesty-ae235703d6a9b99114078fca13a530a0
Maryam Alwan figured the worst was over after New York City police in riot gear arrested her and other protesters on the Columbia University campus, loaded them onto buses and held them in custody for hours.
But the next evening, the college junior received an email from the university. Alwan and other students were being suspended after their arrests at the “ Gaza Solidarity Encampment,” a tactic colleges across the country have deployed to calm growing campus protests against the Israel-Hamas war.
The students’ plight has become a central part of protests, with students and a growing number of faculty demanding their amnesty. At issue is whether universities and law enforcement will clear the charges and withhold other consequences, or whether the suspensions and legal records will follow students into their adult lives.
Terms of the suspensions vary from campus to campus. At Columbia and its affiliated Barnard College for women, Alwan and dozens more were arrested April 18 and promptly barred from campus and classes, unable to attend in-person or virtually, and banned from dining halls.
Questions about their academic futures remain. Will they be allowed to take final exams? What about financial aid? Graduation? Columbia says outcomes will be decided at disciplinary hearings, but Alwan says she has not been given a date.
“This feels very dystopian,” said Alwan, a comparative literature and society major.
For international students facing suspension, there is the added fear of losing their visas, said Radhika Sainath, an attorney with Palestine Legal, which helped a group of Columbia students file a federal civil rights complaint against the school Thursday. It accuses Columbia of not doing enough to address discrimination against Palestinian students.
“The level of punishment is not even just draconian, it feels like over-the-top callousness,” Sainath said.
Gee...who would think that breaking the law and ignoring university regulations could have an impact on your academic (and later) career?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Why would they think they have amnesty? If there is no potential risk, no possible repercussions, then there is no power to their message. That’s stupid. Getting suspended or expelled makes them brave. Not facing discipline makes them whiny little bitches.
The Brad
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What would be an appropriate punishment?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I think it’s time to put it in the hands of some of the fellow students. Start having major employers start putting it out there that they will not be hiring students from X - University as they will not stand for having any lawbreakers and potential antisemites. on staff. As it’s not feasible to know which students were or weren’t involved, the only way the employer can protect itself is to discriminate against all students of the University.
It would be VERY fun if the state and federal governments joined in.
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FAFO:
https://apnews.com/article/student-protest-gaza-war-arrest-amnesty-ae235703d6a9b99114078fca13a530a0
Maryam Alwan figured the worst was over after New York City police in riot gear arrested her and other protesters on the Columbia University campus, loaded them onto buses and held them in custody for hours.
But the next evening, the college junior received an email from the university. Alwan and other students were being suspended after their arrests at the “ Gaza Solidarity Encampment,” a tactic colleges across the country have deployed to calm growing campus protests against the Israel-Hamas war.
The students’ plight has become a central part of protests, with students and a growing number of faculty demanding their amnesty. At issue is whether universities and law enforcement will clear the charges and withhold other consequences, or whether the suspensions and legal records will follow students into their adult lives.
Terms of the suspensions vary from campus to campus. At Columbia and its affiliated Barnard College for women, Alwan and dozens more were arrested April 18 and promptly barred from campus and classes, unable to attend in-person or virtually, and banned from dining halls.
Questions about their academic futures remain. Will they be allowed to take final exams? What about financial aid? Graduation? Columbia says outcomes will be decided at disciplinary hearings, but Alwan says she has not been given a date.
“This feels very dystopian,” said Alwan, a comparative literature and society major.
For international students facing suspension, there is the added fear of losing their visas, said Radhika Sainath, an attorney with Palestine Legal, which helped a group of Columbia students file a federal civil rights complaint against the school Thursday. It accuses Columbia of not doing enough to address discrimination against Palestinian students.
“The level of punishment is not even just draconian, it feels like over-the-top callousness,” Sainath said.
Gee...who would think that breaking the law and ignoring university regulations could have an impact on your academic (and later) career?
@George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Gee...who would think that breaking the law and ignoring university regulations could have an impact on your academic (and later) career?
There you go making sense again!!
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