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Mispronunciation is racist

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    George K
    wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 20:46 last edited by
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    Remember this conversation?

    Apparently, there was outrage over this:

    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Copper
      wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 21:07 last edited by
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      What a bigot

      Those racists are bad

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        Horace
        wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 22:08 last edited by
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        Biden is deeply troubling.

        Education is extremely important.

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          xenon
          wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 22:49 last edited by
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          lololol.

          Under that standard, almost every non-brown person I've met in my life has been racist. Who knew..

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            13 Aug 2020, 22:49

            lololol.

            Under that standard, almost every non-brown person I've met in my life has been racist. Who knew..

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            George K
            wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 22:59 last edited by
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            @xenon said in Mispronunciation is racist:

            lololol.

            Under that standard, almost every non-brown person I've met in my life has been racist. Who knew..

            That's sort of the point, isn't it? Everything is racist when viewed through the prism of CNN's commentatariat.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 23:13 last edited by Axtremus
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              Mispronunciation per se is not necessarily racist.
              Deliberate mispronunciation may be, depending on the circumstances.
              Short of having some sort of speech impediment or simply being incapable of proper pronunciation, deliberate mispronunciation, even after one has been corrected as Mr. Carlson has been, is just plain douchey.

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                Horace
                wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 23:15 last edited by
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                Biden has certainly been corrected before. However, we can probably attribute his persistent failing not to doucheyness but to mental infirmity.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  13 Aug 2020, 23:13

                  Mispronunciation per se is not necessarily racist.
                  Deliberate mispronunciation may be, depending on the circumstances.
                  Short of having some sort of speech impediment or simply being incapable of proper pronunciation, deliberate mispronunciation, even after one has been corrected as Mr. Carlson has been, is just plain douchey.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 23:19 last edited by
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                  @Axtremus said in Mispronunciation is racist:

                  doucehey

                  "Douce Hey?"

                  Wouldn't "Hey, Douce" be more appropriate?

                  If there are two of them ("douce") which one are you addressing?

                  Are typos racist? Particularly if they haven't been proofread?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 23:23 last edited by
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                    One of the things I like about my job is that text edits provide me with a socially acceptable way to be a dick. It's pretty much unavoidable, actually. And if you're called out or questioned about the edits, then you get to make the other person sound stupid, too. It's pretty great.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • G George K
                      13 Aug 2020, 23:19

                      @Axtremus said in Mispronunciation is racist:

                      doucehey

                      "Douce Hey?"

                      Wouldn't "Hey, Douce" be more appropriate?

                      If there are two of them ("douce") which one are you addressing?

                      Are typos racist? Particularly if they haven't been proofread?

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 23:31 last edited by
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                      @George-K said in Mispronunciation is racist:

                      @Axtremus said in Mispronunciation is racist:

                      doucehey

                      "Douce Hey?"

                      Wouldn't "Hey, Douce" be more appropriate?

                      If there are two of them ("douce") which one are you addressing?

                      Are typos racist? Particularly if they haven't been proofread?

                      Thank you for bringing that to my attention.
                      I have since corrected the typo.

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                        xenon
                        wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 23:59 last edited by xenon
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                        It's doubly interesting because in India you'd get very different pronunciations of Kamala depending on if you're in North or South India.

                        Like the word Karma - in old sanskrit you pronounce the "a" at the end, but in North India (that includes big cities like Dehli and Bombay), they pronounce the work "Karm". Stopping on the m. (As in "karm is a bitch" is how you would say it, if that phrase was in a Bollywood movie)

                        In my family extended family I have a "Kamala", spelled "Kamal" pronounced nothing like the correctors on the CNN segments.

                        Also here's super-racist Modi butchering President Doland Trump's name:

                        Link to video

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                          George K
                          wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 00:04 last edited by
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                          "Doland."

                          It could happen, LOL.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            13 Aug 2020, 23:19

                            @Axtremus said in Mispronunciation is racist:

                            doucehey

                            "Douce Hey?"

                            Wouldn't "Hey, Douce" be more appropriate?

                            If there are two of them ("douce") which one are you addressing?

                            Are typos racist? Particularly if they haven't been proofread?

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                            Larry
                            wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 00:53 last edited by
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                            @George-K said in Mispronunciation is racist:

                            @Axtremus said in Mispronunciation is racist:

                            doucehey

                            "Douce Hey?"

                            Wouldn't "Hey, Douce" be more appropriate?

                            If there are two of them ("douce") which one are you addressing?

                            Are typos racist? Particularly if they haven't been proofread?

                            I think in this case the proper spelling would be douche. As in bag.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 02:09 last edited by
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                              @George-K that video was great....love the twist at the end of Biden butchering Kamala's name even worse. LOVE IT

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 11:09 last edited by
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                                I feel bad for all those cnn people, they were so obviously hurt by the mispronunciation.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 11:16 last edited by
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                                  Can you imagine going around life being so easily offended?

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 14:47 last edited by
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                                    They're not that easily offended though. They're just eager for the opportunity to catch an enemy in the act of being offensive, so they can set the shaming machinery against them.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 14:56 last edited by
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                                      Link to video

                                      Not the first time I’ve posted this, and won’t be the last. πŸ˜‚

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 15:02 last edited by
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                                        Idiocracy.

                                        β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 15:08 last edited by
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                                          89th's video is brilliant. Love it.

                                          β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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