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What the hell is going on in Brazil?

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    Mik
    wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 14:37 last edited by
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    Ends justifying the means seems to be replacing constitutional principles.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      14 Apr 2024, 14:37

      Ends justifying the means seems to be replacing constitutional principles.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 15:41 last edited by
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      @Mik said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

      Ends justifying the means seems to be replacing constitutional principles.

      I’m not really up to date on the Brazilian Constitution, but I like to think that Freedom of Speech is more of a universal right that is not granted by anyone.

      The Brad

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 15:55 last edited by jon-nyc
        #7

        He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          14 Apr 2024, 15:55

          He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

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          George K
          wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 15:58 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

          Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

          In Brazil or Hey it's a nice platform you have, shame if anything happened to it in the United States?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 15:59 last edited by
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            In Brazil.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 15 Apr 2024, 14:13 last edited by
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              Am I the only one bothered that he is wearing AirPods while giving his speech? Take them out!! LOL

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                14 Apr 2024, 15:55

                He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

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                George K
                wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 20:20 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

                Your Brazilian phone's ringing, Jon.

                Remember the dictator that got ousted? Yeah...

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  30 Aug 2024, 20:20

                  @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                  He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

                  Your Brazilian phone's ringing, Jon.

                  Remember the dictator that got ousted? Yeah...

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 22:49 last edited by jon-nyc
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                  @George-K said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                  @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                  He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

                  Your Brazilian phone's ringing, Jon.

                  Ok, clearly past time to start worrying about this clown.

                  But I have questions:

                  1. Why did Musk quietly cave to similar demands from India and Turkey while fighting Brazil?

                  2. What will Greenwald do? Use a VPN and risk the fine? Move to Threads? Move to Uruguay? STFU?

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    30 Aug 2024, 22:49

                    @George-K said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                    @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                    He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

                    Your Brazilian phone's ringing, Jon.

                    Ok, clearly past time to start worrying about this clown.

                    But I have questions:

                    1. Why did Musk quietly cave to similar demands from India and Turkey while fighting Brazil?

                    2. What will Greenwald do? Use a VPN and risk the fine? Move to Threads? Move to Uruguay? STFU?

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                    George K
                    wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 23:19 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                    Why did Musk quietly cave to similar demands from India and Turkey while fighting Brazil?

                    I really haven't followed those stories. Did those governments insist on him banning opposition politicians?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 23:55 last edited by
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                      If he's so worried about tyranny, what about China? They don't even have opposition politicians.

                      I was only joking

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 31 Aug 2024, 00:00 last edited by
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                        I love it when Matt Yglesias trolls him about that. I’m sure he sees it and it gives him a twinge inside.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          30 Aug 2024, 23:19

                          @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                          Why did Musk quietly cave to similar demands from India and Turkey while fighting Brazil?

                          I really haven't followed those stories. Did those governments insist on him banning opposition politicians?

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 31 Aug 2024, 00:19 last edited by
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                          @George-K said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                          I really haven't followed those stories. Did those governments insist on him banning opposition politicians?

                          https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4019109-twitters-turkey-election-sparks-criticism/amp/

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/08/india-twitter-online-censorship/

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                            30 Aug 2024, 23:55

                            If he's so worried about tyranny, what about China? They don't even have opposition politicians.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 31 Aug 2024, 00:34 last edited by
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                            what about China?

                            Musk is not alone.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_mainland_China

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 31 Aug 2024, 01:33 last edited by jon-nyc
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                              Right but he still kowtows to them since he chose to build his gigafactory there. Ygelesias often tries to get him to say faint damn about China when he complains about a western government for something trivial in comparison to what the CCP does.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                31 Aug 2024, 01:33

                                Right but he still kowtows to them since he chose to build his gigafactory there. Ygelesias often tries to get him to say faint damn about China when he complains about a western government for something trivial in comparison to what the CCP does.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 31 Aug 2024, 01:37 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                                Right but he still kowtows to them since he chose to build his gigafactory there. Ygelesias often tries to get him to say faint damn about China when he complains about a western government for something trivial in comparison to what the CCP does.

                                That's the point. The phrase "Money talks, bullshit walks" springs to mind.

                                I was only joking

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 1 Sept 2024, 12:19 last edited by George K 9 Jan 2024, 12:20
                                  #20

                                  https://bsky.app/profile/jay.bsky.team/post/3l325p7rz6d2q

                                  Jay is the CEO of Bluesy (I had no idea this existed)

                                  https://bsky.app/profile/jay.bsky.team

                                  A blogger comments: "This is rather like Belgium congratulating Germany on choosing to invade Poland and not, well, Belgium."

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 1 Sept 2024, 20:46 last edited by
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 20 Sept 2024, 13:58 last edited by
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                                      https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/elon-musks-x-bypasses-brazil-ban-through-a-software-update-2

                                      Elon Musk’s X skirted a ban of the social media network in Brazil though an automatic update of its software, an association of Brazilian internet providers said Wednesday.

                                      Access to the platform abruptly returned overnight for many in Latin America’s most populous nation after a Brazilian Supreme Court judge ordered it blocked last month in a clash with Musk. After waking to find X suddenly functioning again on their phones, Brazilian users were abuzz Wednesday with speculation on whether or not the ruling had been revoked.

                                      The Brazilian Association of Internet and Telecommunications Providers, or ABRINT, explained later in the day that in its update X had changed its structure to use IP addresses associated with Cloudflare, a cyber security company in San Francisco. The internet-infrastructure provider works with millions of websites, helping many to route their traffic.

                                      The structural changes in X “make blocking the app much more complicated,” ABRINT said in a statement. The group said that under X’s previous system, the platform used specific IP addresses, which can allow internet companies to identify where data is coming from.

                                      Many of the IP addresses currently being used by X “are shared with other legitimate services, such as banks and large internet platforms, making it impossible to block an IP without affecting other services,” ABRINT added.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 22 Sept 2024, 11:54 last edited by
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                                        Elon caves.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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