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What the hell is going on in Brazil?

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #9

    In Brazil.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
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      #10

      Am I the only one bothered that he is wearing AirPods while giving his speech? Take them out!! LOL

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

        He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

        Your Brazilian phone's ringing, Jon.

        Remember the dictator that got ousted? Yeah...

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

          He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

          Your Brazilian phone's ringing, Jon.

          Remember the dictator that got ousted? Yeah...

          jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
          #12

          @George-K said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

          @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

          He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

          Your Brazilian phone's ringing, Jon.

          Ok, clearly past time to start worrying about this clown.

          But I have questions:

          1. Why did Musk quietly cave to similar demands from India and Turkey while fighting Brazil?

          2. What will Greenwald do? Use a VPN and risk the fine? Move to Threads? Move to Uruguay? STFU?

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @George-K said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

            @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

            He cries wolf a lot. Call me when such a law is actually enacted.

            Your Brazilian phone's ringing, Jon.

            Ok, clearly past time to start worrying about this clown.

            But I have questions:

            1. Why did Musk quietly cave to similar demands from India and Turkey while fighting Brazil?

            2. What will Greenwald do? Use a VPN and risk the fine? Move to Threads? Move to Uruguay? STFU?

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            @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

            Why did Musk quietly cave to similar demands from India and Turkey while fighting Brazil?

            I really haven't followed those stories. Did those governments insist on him banning opposition politicians?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              If he's so worried about tyranny, what about China? They don't even have opposition politicians.

              I was only joking

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                jon-nyc
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                #15

                I love it when Matt Yglesias trolls him about that. I’m sure he sees it and it gives him a twinge inside.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • George KG George K

                  @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                  Why did Musk quietly cave to similar demands from India and Turkey while fighting Brazil?

                  I really haven't followed those stories. Did those governments insist on him banning opposition politicians?

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                  @George-K said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                  I really haven't followed those stories. Did those governments insist on him banning opposition politicians?

                  https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4019109-twitters-turkey-election-sparks-criticism/amp/

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/08/india-twitter-online-censorship/

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    If he's so worried about tyranny, what about China? They don't even have opposition politicians.

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                    what about China?

                    Musk is not alone.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_mainland_China

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #18

                      Right but he still kowtows to them since he chose to build his gigafactory there. Ygelesias often tries to get him to say faint damn about China when he complains about a western government for something trivial in comparison to what the CCP does.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Right but he still kowtows to them since he chose to build his gigafactory there. Ygelesias often tries to get him to say faint damn about China when he complains about a western government for something trivial in comparison to what the CCP does.

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                        @jon-nyc said in What the hell is going on in Brazil?:

                        Right but he still kowtows to them since he chose to build his gigafactory there. Ygelesias often tries to get him to say faint damn about China when he complains about a western government for something trivial in comparison to what the CCP does.

                        That's the point. The phrase "Money talks, bullshit walks" springs to mind.

                        I was only joking

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                          George K
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                          https://bsky.app/profile/jay.bsky.team/post/3l325p7rz6d2q

                          Jay is the CEO of Bluesy (I had no idea this existed)

                          https://bsky.app/profile/jay.bsky.team

                          A blogger comments: "This is rather like Belgium congratulating Germany on choosing to invade Poland and not, well, Belgium."

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/elon-musks-x-bypasses-brazil-ban-through-a-software-update-2

                              Elon Musk’s X skirted a ban of the social media network in Brazil though an automatic update of its software, an association of Brazilian internet providers said Wednesday.

                              Access to the platform abruptly returned overnight for many in Latin America’s most populous nation after a Brazilian Supreme Court judge ordered it blocked last month in a clash with Musk. After waking to find X suddenly functioning again on their phones, Brazilian users were abuzz Wednesday with speculation on whether or not the ruling had been revoked.

                              The Brazilian Association of Internet and Telecommunications Providers, or ABRINT, explained later in the day that in its update X had changed its structure to use IP addresses associated with Cloudflare, a cyber security company in San Francisco. The internet-infrastructure provider works with millions of websites, helping many to route their traffic.

                              The structural changes in X “make blocking the app much more complicated,” ABRINT said in a statement. The group said that under X’s previous system, the platform used specific IP addresses, which can allow internet companies to identify where data is coming from.

                              Many of the IP addresses currently being used by X “are shared with other legitimate services, such as banks and large internet platforms, making it impossible to block an IP without affecting other services,” ABRINT added.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                Elon caves.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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