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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #21

    800k per year is a lot. But the word "millionaire" should be on its last legs as a sign of wealth.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #22

      800K is only a lot when it's somebody I don't like earning it.

      I dislike Max Verstappen a lot more (basically because he's quite aggravating, foreign, and very talented), and he earns over 50 million a year.

      I was only joking

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        I don't listen to radio much to begin with, and I listen to radio even less as I spend less time in the car. Still, of all the radio stations out there, I continue to prefer NPR for when I do listen to radio.

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          She looks like she should be the college intern.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            She looks like she should be the college intern.

            George KG Offline
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            #25

            @LuFins-Dad said in How NPR lost America's trust:

            She looks like she should be the college intern.

            Taibbi: https://www.racket.news/p/new-npr-chief-katherine-mahers-guide?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

            Maher’s timeline reads so much like the Titania McGrath site spoofing overeducated nonsense-babbling white ladies that it’s difficult to believe she’s real — she even looks like the fictional McGrath, if Titania had more money to spend on personal upkeep.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              She looks like she should be the college intern.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #26

              @LuFins-Dad said in How NPR lost America's trust:

              She looks like she should be the college intern.

              They all look like that. And sound like it.

              For all the talk of "diversity", pretty much everybody's young and female. Admittedly, they're a pretty diverse group of young women.

              I was only joking

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                I don't listen to radio much to begin with, and I listen to radio even less as I spend less time in the car. Still, of all the radio stations out there, I continue to prefer NPR for when I do listen to radio.

                MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                #27

                @Axtremus said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                I don't listen to radio much to begin with, and I listen to radio even less as I spend less time in the car. Still, of all the radio stations out there, I continue to prefer NPR for when I do listen to radio.

                I do too, unless I want music. Sometimes the wokeness gets to me, but most of the time I don't mind hearing a different viewpoint. Every now and then they achieve something close to balance. Not often, but sometimes.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #28

                  Of course they did:

                  https://www.npr.org/2024/04/16/1244962042/npr-editor-uri-berliner-suspended-essay

                  NPR has formally punished Uri Berliner, the senior editor who publicly argued a week ago that the network had "lost America's trust" by approaching news stories with a rigidly progressive mindset.

                  Berliner's five-day suspension without pay, which began last Friday, has not been previously reported.

                  Yet the public radio network is grappling in other ways with the fallout from Berliner's essay for the online news site The Free Press. It angered many of his colleagues, led NPR leaders to announce monthly internal reviews of the network's coverage, and gave fresh ammunition to conservative and partisan Republican critics of NPR, including former President Donald Trump.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    Of course they did:

                    https://www.npr.org/2024/04/16/1244962042/npr-editor-uri-berliner-suspended-essay

                    NPR has formally punished Uri Berliner, the senior editor who publicly argued a week ago that the network had "lost America's trust" by approaching news stories with a rigidly progressive mindset.

                    Berliner's five-day suspension without pay, which began last Friday, has not been previously reported.

                    Yet the public radio network is grappling in other ways with the fallout from Berliner's essay for the online news site The Free Press. It angered many of his colleagues, led NPR leaders to announce monthly internal reviews of the network's coverage, and gave fresh ammunition to conservative and partisan Republican critics of NPR, including former President Donald Trump.

                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @George-K said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                    Of course they did:

                    https://www.npr.org/2024/04/16/1244962042/npr-editor-uri-berliner-suspended-essay

                    NPR has formally punished Uri Berliner, the senior editor who publicly argued a week ago that the network had "lost America's trust" by approaching news stories with a rigidly progressive mindset.

                    Berliner's five-day suspension without pay, which began last Friday, has not been previously reported.

                    Yet the public radio network is grappling in other ways with the fallout from Berliner's essay for the online news site The Free Press. It angered many of his colleagues, led NPR leaders to announce monthly internal reviews of the network's coverage, and gave fresh ammunition to conservative and partisan Republican critics of NPR, including former President Donald Trump.

                    If I publicly criticised the company I work for I'd get a lot worse than that.

                    Just saying.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @George-K said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                      Of course they did:

                      https://www.npr.org/2024/04/16/1244962042/npr-editor-uri-berliner-suspended-essay

                      NPR has formally punished Uri Berliner, the senior editor who publicly argued a week ago that the network had "lost America's trust" by approaching news stories with a rigidly progressive mindset.

                      Berliner's five-day suspension without pay, which began last Friday, has not been previously reported.

                      Yet the public radio network is grappling in other ways with the fallout from Berliner's essay for the online news site The Free Press. It angered many of his colleagues, led NPR leaders to announce monthly internal reviews of the network's coverage, and gave fresh ammunition to conservative and partisan Republican critics of NPR, including former President Donald Trump.

                      If I publicly criticised the company I work for I'd get a lot worse than that.

                      Just saying.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                      If I publicly criticised the company I work for I'd get a lot worse than that.

                      Maybe there's a difference between that and calling out a "news" organization for being propaganda biased?

                      But, I get your point.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                        If I publicly criticised the company I work for I'd get a lot worse than that.

                        Maybe there's a difference between that and calling out a "news" organization for being propaganda biased?

                        But, I get your point.

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #31

                        @George-K said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                        Maybe there's a difference between that and calling out a "news" organization for being propaganda biased?

                        There's a contract between me and the people that pay my wages that I don't make them look bad.

                        I know, he's being heroic. It's what journalists do, and then go on and on about it.

                        At the end of the day it's just a job. If he wanted to follow a calling he should have joined the church.

                        I agree with what he said, incidentally. NPR are pretty woeful.

                        I was only joking

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
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                          Yeah any place I’ve worked such a letter would be understood as a letter of resignation

                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @George-K said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                            Maybe there's a difference between that and calling out a "news" organization for being propaganda biased?

                            There's a contract between me and the people that pay my wages that I don't make them look bad.

                            I know, he's being heroic. It's what journalists do, and then go on and on about it.

                            At the end of the day it's just a job. If he wanted to follow a calling he should have joined the church.

                            I agree with what he said, incidentally. NPR are pretty woeful.

                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #33

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                            At the end of the day it's just a job. If he wanted to follow a calling he should have joined the church.

                            Not everyone views their job in the way that you view yours. Old-school NPR journalists for example are pretty hardcore about theirs. And it was a good thing they were.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • MikM Mik

                              @Axtremus said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                              I don't listen to radio much to begin with, and I listen to radio even less as I spend less time in the car. Still, of all the radio stations out there, I continue to prefer NPR for when I do listen to radio.

                              I do too, unless I want music. Sometimes the wokeness gets to me, but most of the time I don't mind hearing a different viewpoint. Every now and then they achieve something close to balance. Not often, but sometimes.

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                              @Mik said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                              @Axtremus said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                              I don't listen to radio much to begin with, and I listen to radio even less as I spend less time in the car. Still, of all the radio stations out there, I continue to prefer NPR for when I do listen to radio.

                              I do too, unless I want music. Sometimes the wokeness gets to me, but most of the time I don't mind hearing a different viewpoint. Every now and then they achieve something close to balance. Not often, but sometimes.

                              Nah, I'm a talk radio guy most of the time. AFR, Moon Griffon, and bouncing between Hannity, Levin or Buck&Travis. I'll also listen to Wilcow on satellite. Music, I listen to satellite radio and I have my favorites:

                              1. The Bridge
                              2. The Blend
                              3. Frankly Sinatra
                              4. Willie's Roadhouse
                              5. 40's Junction
                              6. 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's.
                              7. Classic Rewind
                              8. Classic Vinyl
                              9. Bluegrass
                              10. enLighten
                              11. Prime Country

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                George K
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                                Apparently, he was suspended not for what he said, but for where he said it.

                                NPR's contract states that its reporters can not publish on any outside source.

                                I wonder if NPR would have published his essay...

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • HoraceH Offline
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                                  He should have courageously done it anonymously.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                    At the end of the day it's just a job. If he wanted to follow a calling he should have joined the church.

                                    Not everyone views their job in the way that you view yours. Old-school NPR journalists for example are pretty hardcore about theirs. And it was a good thing they were.

                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                    At the end of the day it's just a job. If he wanted to follow a calling he should have joined the church.

                                    Not everyone views their job in the way that you view yours. Old-school NPR journalists for example are pretty hardcore about theirs. And it was a good thing they were.

                                    Well OK, that's fine and all. And they didn't fire him. He got off with a lot less than I would have.

                                    And I definitely wouldn't get away with going to work with a competitor to publish the message as apparently he did.

                                    Still, they do pay his wages. You can view your job as some kind of sacred endeavour, but forgetting who pays the bills isn't something I'd recommend, even if you are a priest.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                      At the end of the day it's just a job. If he wanted to follow a calling he should have joined the church.

                                      Not everyone views their job in the way that you view yours. Old-school NPR journalists for example are pretty hardcore about theirs. And it was a good thing they were.

                                      Well OK, that's fine and all. And they didn't fire him. He got off with a lot less than I would have.

                                      And I definitely wouldn't get away with going to work with a competitor to publish the message as apparently he did.

                                      Still, they do pay his wages. You can view your job as some kind of sacred endeavour, but forgetting who pays the bills isn't something I'd recommend, even if you are a priest.

                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua Letifer
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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                      At the end of the day it's just a job. If he wanted to follow a calling he should have joined the church.

                                      Not everyone views their job in the way that you view yours. Old-school NPR journalists for example are pretty hardcore about theirs. And it was a good thing they were.

                                      Well OK, that's fine and all. And they didn't fire him. He got off with a lot less than I would have.

                                      They're unionized.

                                      And I definitely wouldn't get away with going to work with a competitor to publish the message as apparently he did.

                                      Still, they do pay his wages. You can view your job as some kind of sacred endeavour, but forgetting who pays the bills isn't something I'd recommend, even if you are a priest.

                                      You've worked zero years as a journalist.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                        At the end of the day it's just a job. If he wanted to follow a calling he should have joined the church.

                                        Not everyone views their job in the way that you view yours. Old-school NPR journalists for example are pretty hardcore about theirs. And it was a good thing they were.

                                        Well OK, that's fine and all. And they didn't fire him. He got off with a lot less than I would have.

                                        They're unionized.

                                        And I definitely wouldn't get away with going to work with a competitor to publish the message as apparently he did.

                                        Still, they do pay his wages. You can view your job as some kind of sacred endeavour, but forgetting who pays the bills isn't something I'd recommend, even if you are a priest.

                                        You've worked zero years as a journalist.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in How NPR lost America's trust:

                                        You've worked zero years as a journalist.

                                        Ah, right. I'm not black or trans-gender either. So that should cut me out of all those conversations. Which is a blessing.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          Well there's no thread police, people can and always do contribute where and how they want.

                                          Please love yourself.

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