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Not on the ballot in Ohio?

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  • MikM Offline
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    #45

    The governor does not seem to think this is resolved and has asked for a legislative fix as in past years. I haven’t read anywhere that the state accepts the Dems plan.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      #46

      He’ll lose. SCOTUS has been pretty adamant about states putting additional requirements on presidential candidates that aren’t in the constitution.

      Ohio can set a date, but they can’t insist on an in-person nominating convention.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        Technically, they don’t even need to do the roll call. All they really need is for the Democratic Party of Ohio to turn in Biden’s name 90 days before the election. That’s it. They could do it now. So why the rigamarole with the roll call?

        The Brad

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        • George KG Offline
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          #48

          Actually, there's probably no reason the Democrats couldn't just say "Biden's our nominee." I assume there's no legislation that could prevent them from doing that.

          Their party, their rules.

          Taking an extreme example, if they changed the rules (by whatever process that would be) to say, "Whoever is the choice of Delegates #1, #1232, and #8827 is the nominee of the party" that would be legal.

          Stupid, but legal.

          Ohio should have no say as to how the Democrats decide who their nominee is. The only requirement is that their nomination is consistent with existing law.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            #49

            Now, what happens if they put Biden and Whitmer on the ballot, then during the convention Biden steps aside for Whitmer? Whitmer’s name is still on the ballot…

            The Brad

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              #50

              I would imagine it would be Biden on the ballot still.

              But the democrats would likely recruit delegates that would ‘go rogue’ and vote for Whitman in the electoral college.

              Which, incidentally, was a ‘plan B’ I mentioned here for Trump’s ME and CO issues that I never really heard discussed elsewhere.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                It's okay, the nominee won't be Biden.

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                #51

                @Jolly said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:

                It's okay, the nominee won't be Biden.

                I think you are right, but what is the status to change and how soon do they have to do so before the actual elections to make sure that the new person on the ballot?

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                  I don’t buy any of this ‘it won’t be Biden’ stuff, even though I’d welcome it.

                  But to your question, except for Ohio, they can choose anyone in the convention.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    #53

                    But what if after the ocnvention?

                    I would not be surprised bout President Biden. There was an article the other day in one of the "mainstream" papers about how the Democrat are really really really worried about Biden and the election being won.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      #54

                      Honestly I’m not sure what the technicalities would be. For example, if one of the candidates dies in October.

                      There would be two separate questions. What the party process would be to choose a successor, (though surely the VP would be the lead by far) and then getting Biden or Trump electors to agree, since the ballots wouldn’t be changed at that late date.

                      One complication is that some states have laws that require electors to cast their vote for the person who won the popular vote in their state. IOW, some could be forced to vote for a dead guy.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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