The Right to Disconnect
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@Mik said in The Right to Disconnect:
It is, but I wonder in a lot of cases if it will be invoked by the employees. Well intentioned but impracticable. The kind of job this usually happens in, well, career suicide.
Which makes a good case for the law being helpful. Of the total industries who engage in these practices, only in a small fraction is it actually necessary.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Right to Disconnect:
Which makes a good case for the law being helpful.
I can see a situation in which an employee refuses an "off the clock" discussion.
Then, when promotion/raise time comes around, he's dinged for "not being a team player."
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Right to Disconnect:
Which makes a good case for the law being helpful.
I can see a situation in which an employee refuses an "off the clock" discussion.
Then, when promotion/raise time comes around, he's dinged for "not being a team player."
@George-K said in The Right to Disconnect:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Right to Disconnect:
Which makes a good case for the law being helpful.
I can see a situation in which an employee refuses an "off the clock" discussion.
Then, when promotion/raise time comes around, he's dinged for "not being a team player."
Of course. That happens today. But it's still better than being given a bogus PIP and subsequently fired for "not being a team player."
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Well, I can't speak for the rest of you but I'm every bit as dedicated to work in my own time as I am during office hours.
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I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.
@jon-nyc said in The Right to Disconnect:
I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.
Yep. I think most people in any responsible position understand when off hours work is necessary and when not.
"You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell
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@jon-nyc said in The Right to Disconnect:
I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.
Yep. I think most people in any responsible position understand when off hours work is necessary and when not.
@Mik said in The Right to Disconnect:
@jon-nyc said in The Right to Disconnect:
I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.
Yep. I think most people in any responsible position
There's your problem, right there. I think you greatly overestimate the reason a shitload of people have out there. Overstepping by insecure managers is a big fucking problem. Always has been, but now they can get you at home, too.
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I rather enjoy the rare times we're doing something urgent and need to do something at an odd hour. But it's rare enough that I can enjoy it.
@Horace said in The Right to Disconnect:
I rather enjoy the rare times we're doing something urgent and need to do something at an odd hour. But it's rare enough that I can enjoy it.
At one of my previous jobs, there was a kind of bet every July about who would be the first to have a mental breakdown. The winner was awarded free beer for the night the next time we were all able to go out. Which was in August. I consider that and plenty of other incidents sufficiently fucked up that I welcome some form of regulation to limit work intrusion into home life.
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