The Right to Disconnect

[Mik]

It is, but I wonder in a lot of cases if it will be invoked by the employees. Well intentioned but impracticable. The kind of job this usually happens in, well, career suicide.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in The Right to Disconnect:

It is, but I wonder in a lot of cases if it will be invoked by the employees. Well intentioned but impracticable. The kind of job this usually happens in, well, career suicide.

Which makes a good case for the law being helpful. Of the total industries who engage in these practices, only in a small fraction is it actually necessary.

[George K]

@Aqua-Letifer said in The Right to Disconnect:

Which makes a good case for the law being helpful.

I can see a situation in which an employee refuses an "off the clock" discussion.

Then, when promotion/raise time comes around, he's dinged for "not being a team player."

[Aqua Letifer]

@George-K said in The Right to Disconnect:

@Aqua-Letifer said in The Right to Disconnect:

Which makes a good case for the law being helpful.

I can see a situation in which an employee refuses an "off the clock" discussion.

Then, when promotion/raise time comes around, he's dinged for "not being a team player."

Of course. That happens today. But it's still better than being given a bogus PIP and subsequently fired for "not being a team player."

[Doctor Phibes]

Well, I can't speak for the rest of you but I'm every bit as dedicated to work in my own time as I am during office hours.

[jon-nyc]

I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.

[Klaus]

Over here, many of the big companies don't even deliver emails or other business communication to their employees during non-work hours. You can send an email to a coworker at any time, but it will be delivered only when work hours start.

[jon-nyc]

That’s lame and paternalistic.

[Mik]

@jon-nyc said in The Right to Disconnect:

I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.

Yep. I think most people in any responsible position understand when off hours work is necessary and when not.

[Horace]

I rather enjoy the rare times we're doing something urgent and need to do something at an odd hour. But it's rare enough that I can enjoy it.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in The Right to Disconnect:

@jon-nyc said in The Right to Disconnect:

I always figured it’s a trade off. Employees spend some personal time doing work stuff and some work time doing personal stuff.

Yep. I think most people in any responsible position

There's your problem, right there. I think you greatly overestimate the reason a shitload of people have out there. Overstepping by insecure managers is a big fucking problem. Always has been, but now they can get you at home, too.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Horace said in The Right to Disconnect:

I rather enjoy the rare times we're doing something urgent and need to do something at an odd hour. But it's rare enough that I can enjoy it.

At one of my previous jobs, there was a kind of bet every July about who would be the first to have a mental breakdown. The winner was awarded free beer for the night the next time we were all able to go out. Which was in August. I consider that and plenty of other incidents sufficiently fucked up that I welcome some form of regulation to limit work intrusion into home life.