Trump Sells $59.99 Bible
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Again, it really doesn't matter, does it?
I haven't defended Trump's actions in this thread, other than the shit-spraying over someone selling a book that most of you wouldn't even bother to read. I find nothing wrong with the physical act of selling a Bible.
Do you?
I think that the cynical exploitation of people's religious faith is pretty disgusting.
Especially when seniors are the prime target.
@Renauda said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Again, it really doesn't matter, does it?
I haven't defended Trump's actions in this thread, other than the shit-spraying over someone selling a book that most of you wouldn't even bother to read. I find nothing wrong with the physical act of selling a Bible.
Do you?
I think that the cynical exploitation of people's religious faith is pretty disgusting.
Especially when seniors are the prime target.
What's next, Trump the televangelist? He's already got the look,
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BTW, for $500,000, you could of had your picture taken with the 3 Dems in New York today.
The one GOP president in New York today was not taking pictures for money. He was attending a slain officer's funeral.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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BTW, for $500,000, you could of had your picture taken with the 3 Dems in New York today.
The one GOP president in New York today was not taking pictures for money. He was attending a slain officer's funeral.
@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
The one GOP president in New York today was not taking pictures for money. He was attending a slain officer's funeral.
Compare and contrast, Trump in 2020:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/… [Trump] did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Has Trump changed?
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@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
The one GOP president in New York today was not taking pictures for money. He was attending a slain officer's funeral.
Compare and contrast, Trump in 2020:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/… [Trump] did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Has Trump changed?
@Axtremus said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Compare and contrast, Trump in 2020:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/… [Trump] did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Got verification for that story? Who saw it? Who heard it? Were they in The Beast at the time?
Has Trump changed?
Has Biden?
I mean, who are you going to believe, unnamed sources quoted by The Atlantic, or your own lying eyes?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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BTW, for $500,000, you could of had your picture taken with the 3 Dems in New York today.
The one GOP president in New York today was not taking pictures for money. He was attending a slain officer's funeral.
@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
BTW, for $500,000, you could of had your picture taken with the 3 Dems in New York today.
The one GOP president in New York today was not taking pictures for money. He was attending a slain officer's funeral.
LOL. Biden LITERALLY tweeted this while he was at the fundraiser, and the "other guy" was at the funeral.
Your timing was just a bit wrong, IMO.
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Shouldn't we just assume that all of these people, flawed as they are, are doing God's work? Who are we to question what is in their hearts?
Also, for $60 shouldn't you at least get some free ammo with every purchase of the All American Bible?
I was only joking
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@Axtremus said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Compare and contrast, Trump in 2020:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/… [Trump] did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Got verification for that story? Who saw it? Who heard it? Were they in The Beast at the time?
Has Trump changed?
Has Biden?
I mean, who are you going to believe, unnamed sources quoted by The Atlantic, or your own lying eyes?
@George-K said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Axtremus said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Compare and contrast, Trump in 2020:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/… [Trump] did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Got verification for that story? Who saw it? Who heard it?
General John Kelly.
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@George-K said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Axtremus said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Compare and contrast, Trump in 2020:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/… [Trump] did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Got verification for that story? Who saw it? Who heard it?
General John Kelly.
@jon-nyc said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@George-K said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Axtremus said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Compare and contrast, Trump in 2020:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/… [Trump] did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Got verification for that story? Who saw it? Who heard it?
General John Kelly.
I'll give you the CNN hit piece:
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Shouldn't we just assume that all of these people, flawed as they are, are doing God's work? Who are we to question what is in their hearts?
Also, for $60 shouldn't you at least get some free ammo with every purchase of the All American Bible?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Shouldn't we just assume that all of these people, flawed as they are, are doing God's work? Who are we to question what is in their hearts?
Also, for $60 shouldn't you at least get some free ammo with every purchase of the All American Bible?
A. I wouldn't assume a whole lot either way. I don't pretend to know the Mind of God. All I do know is that He has used seriously flawed people in the past to do His Will.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Shouldn't we just assume that all of these people, flawed as they are, are doing God's work? Who are we to question what is in their hearts?
Also, for $60 shouldn't you at least get some free ammo with every purchase of the All American Bible?
A. I wouldn't assume a whole lot either way. I don't pretend to know the Mind of God. All I do know is that He has used seriously flawed people in the past to do His Will.
B. I said the Bible was over-priced.@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
A. I wouldn't assume a whole lot either way. I don't pretend to know the Mind of God. All I do know is that He has used seriously flawed people in the past to do His Will.
It's certainly true that some seriously flawed people have been said to be doing God's work while doing some terrible things. To be fair, I don't think Trump really compares with Oliver Cromwell or Osama bin Laden, he's more of a P.T. Barnum figure, or a character from a Gilbert and Sullivan production. The most surprising thing about him is how willing people seem to be to taken in by his nonsense.
I was only joking
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As said on the show…
If Trump is now in business with God, the Big Guy might want to watch out as in a year or two he’ll be bankrupt and sentenced to 50 days in jail.
@89th said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
As said on the show…
If Trump is now in business with God, the Big Guy might want to watch out as in a year or two he’ll be bankrupt and sentenced to 50 days in jail.
A little Jesus wouldn't hurt Trump.
A little Jesus wouldn't hurt you, either.
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@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
A. I wouldn't assume a whole lot either way. I don't pretend to know the Mind of God. All I do know is that He has used seriously flawed people in the past to do His Will.
It's certainly true that some seriously flawed people have been said to be doing God's work while doing some terrible things. To be fair, I don't think Trump really compares with Oliver Cromwell or Osama bin Laden, he's more of a P.T. Barnum figure, or a character from a Gilbert and Sullivan production. The most surprising thing about him is how willing people seem to be to taken in by his nonsense.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
A. I wouldn't assume a whole lot either way. I don't pretend to know the Mind of God. All I do know is that He has used seriously flawed people in the past to do His Will.
It's certainly true that some seriously flawed people have been said to be doing God's work while doing some terrible things. To be fair, I don't think Trump really compares with Oliver Cromwell or Osama bin Laden, he's more of a P.T. Barnum figure, or a character from a Gilbert and Sullivan production. The most surprising thing about him is how willing people seem to be to taken in by his nonsense.
I don't think the vast majority are taken in. I think most people understand the mercurial personality of Trump, the ego and narcissism. But they also understand his chaos and effect upon The System. Trump is a catalyst, a flying wrecking ball knocking down walls of concealment.
The System (or Swamp, if you prefer) has rules for thee, but not for me. It dispenses Justice with an uneven hand. It sets preferences for different groups. Much of the Swamp is too in-bred, too uni-party, too concerned with preservation of power and not concerned enough with the good of the country.
If not for Trump, we may not know just how bad the FBI and the Justice Department have become. We wouldn't have known how porous the border had become. We may not have known how bad crime in American cities had become. And we certainly wouldn't have known how much the Coastal Elites were shaping public policy for the rest of the country.
Trump becomes an ersatz Rorschach test for the Beltway id of the country. Maybe that's why it's fun to wind him up, point him in the right direction and watch the pins fly as the Trump Train strikes.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
A. I wouldn't assume a whole lot either way. I don't pretend to know the Mind of God. All I do know is that He has used seriously flawed people in the past to do His Will.
It's certainly true that some seriously flawed people have been said to be doing God's work while doing some terrible things. To be fair, I don't think Trump really compares with Oliver Cromwell or Osama bin Laden, he's more of a P.T. Barnum figure, or a character from a Gilbert and Sullivan production. The most surprising thing about him is how willing people seem to be to taken in by his nonsense.
I don't think the vast majority are taken in. I think most people understand the mercurial personality of Trump, the ego and narcissism. But they also understand his chaos and effect upon The System. Trump is a catalyst, a flying wrecking ball knocking down walls of concealment.
The System (or Swamp, if you prefer) has rules for thee, but not for me. It dispenses Justice with an uneven hand. It sets preferences for different groups. Much of the Swamp is too in-bred, too uni-party, too concerned with preservation of power and not concerned enough with the good of the country.
If not for Trump, we may not know just how bad the FBI and the Justice Department have become. We wouldn't have known how porous the border had become. We may not have known how bad crime in American cities had become. And we certainly wouldn't have known how much the Coastal Elites were shaping public policy for the rest of the country.
Trump becomes an ersatz Rorschach test for the Beltway id of the country. Maybe that's why it's fun to wind him up, point him in the right direction and watch the pins fly as the Trump Train strikes.
I don't think the vast majority are taken in. I think most people understand the mercurial personality of Trump, the ego and narcissism.
I think that is precisely why the vast majority is taken in by the con. The majority thinks it understands. It has no clue to what he is about or how he ticks.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@George-K said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Axtremus said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Compare and contrast, Trump in 2020:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/… [Trump] did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Got verification for that story? Who saw it? Who heard it?
General John Kelly.
I'll give you the CNN hit piece:
@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@George-K said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Axtremus said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Compare and contrast, Trump in 2020:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/… [Trump] did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Got verification for that story? Who saw it? Who heard it?
General John Kelly.
I'll give you the CNN hit piece:
John Kelly is credible witness and source.
Anyone have a problem with that or with what he said?
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@Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@George-K said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
@Axtremus said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
Compare and contrast, Trump in 2020:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/… [Trump] did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Got verification for that story? Who saw it? Who heard it?
General John Kelly.
I'll give you the CNN hit piece:
John Kelly is credible witness and source.
Anyone have a problem with that or with what he said?
@Renauda said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:
John Kelly is credible witness and source.
Yes.
Anyone have a problem with that or with what he said?
Yes, again.
The article that Jolly cited points to Kelly's comments with respect to the Atlantic article. In a nutshell, it says, "Yeah, I believe it happened and that the Orange Man said those things." It does NOT say that he witnessed those things allegedly said by Trump, and he does not explicitly say that he did.
However, he goes on to say that he heard Trump say OTHER reprehensible things which are not stated in the Atlantic article.
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I see what you’re saying. Valid points. But I’ll give Gen. Kelly the benefit of the doubt. Unlike Gen. Flynn he has done or said nothing while he worked for Trump or since he left to indicate, to me at least, that he is a flake. Nor were several others who left Trump’s executive, flakes.
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BTW, this is the actual video:
