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  • L LuFins Dad
    28 Mar 2024, 01:34

    This will also push more travelers onto the Acela and NE Express, possibly to capacity, which will create new challenges. The months that the port is down will add major stressors to a supply chain that is still recovering from 20-21. And that port was the last floater keeping that city from being completely flushed.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 28 Mar 2024, 02:51 last edited by
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    @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

    This will also push more travelers onto the Acela and NE Express, possibly to capacity, which will create new challenges. The months that the port is down will add major stressors to a supply chain that is still recovering from 20-21. And that port was the last floater keeping that city from being completely flushed.

    Is it a city that should be flushed?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      89th
      wrote on 28 Mar 2024, 03:18 last edited by
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      Yeah the traffic this summer will be extra sux0rs. Tunnel traffic jams, tons of traffic taking 95 or 695 alternate routes adding time and distance.

      Other things I’ve thought of. Cruise ships, any stuck, but otherwise lots will have to change their port. Same with normal cargo ships, any stuck?

      Then I think of the businesses along the highway route that’ll now have nearly zero customers. Sucks.

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      • J Jolly
        28 Mar 2024, 02:51

        @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

        This will also push more travelers onto the Acela and NE Express, possibly to capacity, which will create new challenges. The months that the port is down will add major stressors to a supply chain that is still recovering from 20-21. And that port was the last floater keeping that city from being completely flushed.

        Is it a city that should be flushed?

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        89th
        wrote on 28 Mar 2024, 03:20 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

        This will also push more travelers onto the Acela and NE Express, possibly to capacity, which will create new challenges. The months that the port is down will add major stressors to a supply chain that is still recovering from 20-21. And that port was the last floater keeping that city from being completely flushed.

        Is it a city that should be flushed?

        Not really. But I am biased. I have grandparents and cousins who live there and have been involved in everything from the Inner Habor revitalization in the 90s to opening up small coffee shops and renovating houses for the poor. The city has a rich history and unique culture. Of course there are wide swaths of the city that are ghetto as shit and could use a complete reset.

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          George K
          wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 14:25 last edited by
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          Time to re-build?

          Ten years:

          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/03/27/five-questions-baltimore-key-bridge-collapse/73119241007/

          A complete rebuild could take a decade or more, Schafer said. He noted that building the original bridge took five years and rebuilding the Skyway Bridge in Tampa after it was hit by a freighter in 1980 took seven.

          “To actually recreate that whole transportation network," he said. "Projects that large take “rarely less than 10 years."

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 15:05 last edited by
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            Seems to me, the biggest need is to get the shipping lanes open. The rest is congestion and inconvenience, compared with the economic impact of the port being closed.

            I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • J Jolly
              29 Mar 2024, 15:05

              Seems to me, the biggest need is to get the shipping lanes open. The rest is congestion and inconvenience, compared with the economic impact of the port being closed.

              I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

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              Copper
              wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 15:38 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

              I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

              Close the port

              Shutdown the city

              Just walk away

              Now would be a good time

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              • J Jolly
                29 Mar 2024, 15:05

                Seems to me, the biggest need is to get the shipping lanes open. The rest is congestion and inconvenience, compared with the economic impact of the port being closed.

                I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

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                89th
                wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 18:02 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                Seems to me, the biggest need is to get the shipping lanes open. The rest is congestion and inconvenience, compared with the economic impact of the port being closed.

                I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

                Agreed about the priority.

                BTW the empire state building took 13 months.

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                • 8 89th
                  29 Mar 2024, 18:02

                  @Jolly said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                  Seems to me, the biggest need is to get the shipping lanes open. The rest is congestion and inconvenience, compared with the economic impact of the port being closed.

                  I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

                  Agreed about the priority.

                  BTW the empire state building took 13 months.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 18:06 last edited by
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                  @89th said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                  BTW the empire state building took 13 months.

                  Putting a man on the moon took less than 10 years.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 18:13 last edited by
                    #57

                    Pearl Harbor to VJ Day 1,346 days (3 years 251 days)

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 20:25 last edited by Jolly
                      #58

                      Two years to clean up Pearl Harbor, including refitting 4 battleships.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 21:11 last edited by
                        #59

                        If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                        The Brad

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          29 Mar 2024, 21:11

                          If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 21:56 last edited by
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                          If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                          If the union safety regulations save even a single life, the extra time is worth it.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 22:11 last edited by
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                            The Chinese need a little startup time to put the bugs into the bridge components before they ship them here.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 30 Mar 2024, 00:17 last edited by
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                              Screenshot 2024-03-29 at 6.53.05 PM.png

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • HoraceH Horace
                                29 Mar 2024, 21:56

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                                If the union safety regulations save even a single life, the extra time is worth it.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 30 Mar 2024, 01:51 last edited by
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                                @Horace said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                                If the union safety regulations save even a single life, the extra time is worth it.

                                Who said safety regulations?

                                The Brad

                                HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply 30 Mar 2024, 03:29
                                • L LuFins Dad
                                  30 Mar 2024, 01:51

                                  @Horace said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                  If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                                  If the union safety regulations save even a single life, the extra time is worth it.

                                  Who said safety regulations?

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 30 Mar 2024, 03:29 last edited by
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                  @Horace said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                  If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                                  If the union safety regulations save even a single life, the extra time is worth it.

                                  Who said safety regulations?

                                  The voice in my head that told me what a union apologist would say in response to your post.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 30 Mar 2024, 12:36 last edited by
                                    #65

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 19 May 2024, 02:39 last edited by
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                                      Human story on those crew members who are still stuck on the ship for various reasons:

                                      https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/18/us/baltimore-bridge-dali-ship-crew/index.html

                                      You’d thought all those who were originally on board the ship would have been “rescued” and relocated to dry land by now, but no, many of them are still stuck on the ship.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 19 May 2024, 02:55 last edited by
                                        #67

                                        But it could be weeks or even months before they can leave, due to an array of complications – including US visas that expired while they’ve been trapped

                                        That has the ring of truth to it. The Biden administration is relentless with its enforcement of immigration laws. Those Indians could apply for asylum, maybe if the ship was literally sinking when they filled out the paperwork, but good luck even then. It’s almost impossible to get asylum in America.

                                        Welcome to Joe Biden’s America? It is, heart breakingly, the exact opposite for these brave souls, trapped by Biden’s fascist immigration enforcers.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 26 Mar 2025, 18:01 last edited by
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                                          Can you believe this was only a year ago? Seems like much longer.

                                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

                                          Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply 26 Mar 2025, 18:19
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