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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
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    #48

    This would be a good time to have a ferry service.

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      This will also push more travelers onto the Acela and NE Express, possibly to capacity, which will create new challenges. The months that the port is down will add major stressors to a supply chain that is still recovering from 20-21. And that port was the last floater keeping that city from being completely flushed.

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      @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

      This will also push more travelers onto the Acela and NE Express, possibly to capacity, which will create new challenges. The months that the port is down will add major stressors to a supply chain that is still recovering from 20-21. And that port was the last floater keeping that city from being completely flushed.

      Is it a city that should be flushed?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        Yeah the traffic this summer will be extra sux0rs. Tunnel traffic jams, tons of traffic taking 95 or 695 alternate routes adding time and distance.

        Other things I’ve thought of. Cruise ships, any stuck, but otherwise lots will have to change their port. Same with normal cargo ships, any stuck?

        Then I think of the businesses along the highway route that’ll now have nearly zero customers. Sucks.

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

          This will also push more travelers onto the Acela and NE Express, possibly to capacity, which will create new challenges. The months that the port is down will add major stressors to a supply chain that is still recovering from 20-21. And that port was the last floater keeping that city from being completely flushed.

          Is it a city that should be flushed?

          89th8 Offline
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          #51

          @Jolly said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

          This will also push more travelers onto the Acela and NE Express, possibly to capacity, which will create new challenges. The months that the port is down will add major stressors to a supply chain that is still recovering from 20-21. And that port was the last floater keeping that city from being completely flushed.

          Is it a city that should be flushed?

          Not really. But I am biased. I have grandparents and cousins who live there and have been involved in everything from the Inner Habor revitalization in the 90s to opening up small coffee shops and renovating houses for the poor. The city has a rich history and unique culture. Of course there are wide swaths of the city that are ghetto as shit and could use a complete reset.

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          • George KG Offline
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            Time to re-build?

            Ten years:

            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/03/27/five-questions-baltimore-key-bridge-collapse/73119241007/

            A complete rebuild could take a decade or more, Schafer said. He noted that building the original bridge took five years and rebuilding the Skyway Bridge in Tampa after it was hit by a freighter in 1980 took seven.

            “To actually recreate that whole transportation network," he said. "Projects that large take “rarely less than 10 years."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Seems to me, the biggest need is to get the shipping lanes open. The rest is congestion and inconvenience, compared with the economic impact of the port being closed.

              I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Seems to me, the biggest need is to get the shipping lanes open. The rest is congestion and inconvenience, compared with the economic impact of the port being closed.

                I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

                CopperC Offline
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                @Jolly said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

                Close the port

                Shutdown the city

                Just walk away

                Now would be a good time

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Seems to me, the biggest need is to get the shipping lanes open. The rest is congestion and inconvenience, compared with the economic impact of the port being closed.

                  I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

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                  @Jolly said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                  Seems to me, the biggest need is to get the shipping lanes open. The rest is congestion and inconvenience, compared with the economic impact of the port being closed.

                  I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

                  Agreed about the priority.

                  BTW the empire state building took 13 months.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @Jolly said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                    Seems to me, the biggest need is to get the shipping lanes open. The rest is congestion and inconvenience, compared with the economic impact of the port being closed.

                    I understand the Corps of Engineers has been tasked with opening the shipping channel back up.

                    Agreed about the priority.

                    BTW the empire state building took 13 months.

                    George KG Offline
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                    @89th said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                    BTW the empire state building took 13 months.

                    Putting a man on the moon took less than 10 years.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
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                      #57

                      Pearl Harbor to VJ Day 1,346 days (3 years 251 days)

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #58

                        Two years to clean up Pearl Harbor, including refitting 4 battleships.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                            If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                            If the union safety regulations save even a single life, the extra time is worth it.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              The Chinese need a little startup time to put the bugs into the bridge components before they ship them here.

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                                George K
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                                Screenshot 2024-03-29 at 6.53.05 PM.png

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                  If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                                  If the union safety regulations save even a single life, the extra time is worth it.

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                                  @Horace said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                  If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                                  If the union safety regulations save even a single life, the extra time is worth it.

                                  Who said safety regulations?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @Horace said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                    If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                                    If the union safety regulations save even a single life, the extra time is worth it.

                                    Who said safety regulations?

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                    @Horace said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                    If building the original took 5 years in the 70’s, why would it take 7-10 now? Oh, that’s right, unions…

                                    If the union safety regulations save even a single life, the extra time is worth it.

                                    Who said safety regulations?

                                    The voice in my head that told me what a union apologist would say in response to your post.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Human story on those crew members who are still stuck on the ship for various reasons:

                                        https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/18/us/baltimore-bridge-dali-ship-crew/index.html

                                        You’d thought all those who were originally on board the ship would have been “rescued” and relocated to dry land by now, but no, many of them are still stuck on the ship.

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                                          But it could be weeks or even months before they can leave, due to an array of complications – including US visas that expired while they’ve been trapped

                                          That has the ring of truth to it. The Biden administration is relentless with its enforcement of immigration laws. Those Indians could apply for asylum, maybe if the ship was literally sinking when they filled out the paperwork, but good luck even then. It’s almost impossible to get asylum in America.

                                          Welcome to Joe Biden’s America? It is, heart breakingly, the exact opposite for these brave souls, trapped by Biden’s fascist immigration enforcers.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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