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  • 89th8 89th

    @George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

    Interesting.

    Quite surprising those foundational supports aren't protected more given the sizes of ships going between them, obviously this is viewed in retrospect.

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    @89th said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

    @George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

    Interesting.

    Quite surprising those foundational supports aren't protected more given the sizes of ships going between them, obviously this is viewed in retrospect.

    Hindsight is 20-20.

    Did we have container ships in the 1970's like the one that struck the bridge?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @89th said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

      @George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

      Interesting.

      Quite surprising those foundational supports aren't protected more given the sizes of ships going between them, obviously this is viewed in retrospect.

      Hindsight is 20-20.

      Did we have container ships in the 1970's like the one that struck the bridge?

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      @Jolly said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

      @89th said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

      @George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

      Interesting.

      Quite surprising those foundational supports aren't protected more given the sizes of ships going between them, obviously this is viewed in retrospect.

      Hindsight is 20-20.

      Did we have container ships in the 1970's like the one that struck the bridge?

      Installing bumpers isn’t hindsight, it’s something they’ve been warned about. Bridges have been having them installed for several decades.

      The Brad

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        System designers and engineers have written reams and reams on "single points of failures."
        Yet avoiding them in the real world is really, really hard; or really, really expensive.

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          Yeah - this seems like a freak, highly improbable thing.

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            We’ve had barges run into the bridges in Cincinnati, but no such damage. The Ohio River Bridges are not nearly as high or long. That’s a factor.

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            • X xenon

              Yeah - this seems like a freak, highly improbable thing.

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              @xenon said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

              Yeah - this seems like a freak, highly improbable thing.

              Freak, highly improbable things eventually happen when you have 2000 cargo ships going in and out every year

              The Brad

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                Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      97df40fd-1bfb-4b9a-838c-13e74f7037f5.jpeg

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                      @jon-nyc said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                      97df40fd-1bfb-4b9a-838c-13e74f7037f5.jpeg

                      Was P Diddy on the bridge at the time?

                      The Brad

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                          Some images from some area photographers.

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                          Please love yourself.

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                            Beautiful. I wonder if the replacement bridge will be the same design?

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                              It looks fragile.

                              We need something to inspire confidence

                              image.png

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                                Link to video

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                                    Also seen on Twitter: Biden says that the US Government will cover the cost of rebuilding the bridge and all other damage.

                                    Why?

                                    Doesn't the owner carry insurance?

                                    By way of comparison, when the train derailed in East Palestine, he said that Norfolk Southern should pay for the cleanup.

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                                      Also seen on Twitter: Biden says that the US Government will cover the cost of rebuilding the bridge and all other damage.

                                      Why?

                                      Doesn't the owner carry insurance?

                                      By way of comparison, when the train derailed in East Palestine, he said that Norfolk Southern should pay for the cleanup.

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                                      @George-K said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                      Also seen on Twitter: Biden says that the US Government will cover the cost of rebuilding the bridge and all other damage.

                                      Why?

                                      Doesn't the owner carry insurance?

                                      By way of comparison, when the train derailed in East Palestine, he said that Norfolk Southern should pay for the cleanup.

                                      What is the comparative hit to jobs, commerce and transportation?

                                      You do know this completely fucked all harbor tunnel traffic basically forever, right?

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        Why do you say that?

                                        I will admit when I saw the news originally I thought to myself that my next couple of DC trips will definitely be flights.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Why do you say that?

                                          I will admit when I saw the news originally I thought to myself that my next couple of DC trips will definitely be flights.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Baltimore Bay bridge collapses:

                                          Why do you say that?

                                          I will admit when I saw the news originally I thought to myself that my next couple of DC trips will definitely be flights.

                                          3600 trucks crossed the bridge daily. Many of those trucks are Hazmat. They now have to take a massive detour because they can't use the tunnels.

                                          As for everyone else, in addition to losing the bridge to get to Dundalk and Essex, those trucks now have 30 or so miles of mixing in with the other traffic.

                                          This is going to fuck the port, the state, the city and I-95 for a long while.

                                          Please love yourself.

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