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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://thefederalist.com/2024/03/08/exclusive-liz-cheney-january-6-committee-suppressed-exonerating-evidence-of-trumps-push-for-national-guard/

    Former Rep. Liz Cheney’s January 6 Committee suppressed evidence that President Donald Trump pushed for 10,000 National Guard troops to protect the nation’s capital, a previously hidden transcript obtained by The Federalist shows.

    Cheney and her committee falsely claimed they had “no evidence” to support Trump officials’ claims the White House had communicated its desire for 10,000 National Guard troops. In fact, an early transcribed interview conducted by the committee included precisely that evidence from a key source. The interview, which Cheney attended and personally participated in, was suppressed from public release until now.

    Deputy Chief of Staff Anthony Ornato’s first transcribed interview with the committee was conducted on January 28, 2022. In it, he told Cheney and her investigators that he overheard White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows push Washington D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser to request as many National Guard troops as she needed to protect the city.

    He also testified President Trump had suggested 10,000 would be needed to keep the peace at the public rallies and protests scheduled for January 6, 2021. Ornato also described White House frustration with Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller’s slow deployment of assistance on the afternoon of January 6, 2021.

    Not only did the committee not accurately characterize the interview, they suppressed the transcript from public review. On top of that, committee allies began publishing critical stories and even conspiracy theories about Ornato ahead of follow-up interviews with him. Ornato was a career Secret Service official who had been detailed to the security position in the White House.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      Her political career is D-E-A-D.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
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        TDS sufferers are orgasming to this day over the “insurrection”. I am very clearly aware that they are thrilled that it happened.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • CopperC Offline
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          10,000 National Guard troops could mow down a lot of doofuses.

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          • CopperC Copper

            10,000 National Guard troops could mow down a lot of doofuses.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            @Copper said in Liz Lied:

            10,000 National Guard troops could mow down a lot of doofuses.

            Probably wouldn't need an F-15 either.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              Josh Hawley should get an Oscar too...

              Screenshot 2024-03-11 at 8.01.28 AM.png

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                You can't unsee something. They knew what they were doing. They were (professionally) crafting a sight and sound narrative, broadcasting it to the American public with the help of a complicit media and then reinforcing the Big Lie at every opportunity. Including just about every time The Resident opens his mouth and rails on about the MAGA boogeyman and the Death Of Democracy!

                The man who ran on uniting the country is doing his best to eradicate any confidence Americans may have in the veracity of the media or of most of the government. Just another step on Dante's pathway, which will end badly.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • 89th8 Offline
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                  89th
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                  Haha I love how you gobble up one article for truth but totally dismiss other articles if they don't fit your conclusion. There's probably a bit of truth from all sides of the Jan 6th partisan articles. IF what this one person said they heard another person say to another person is true... actually let me stop there and read the actual transcript.

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                    89th
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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      89th
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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        89th
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                        Had to split the image because of size.

                        Anyway... it's not as bombastic a case as the Federalist article makes it seem.

                        Meadows was on a call with the DC Mayor and asked if she had what she needed (for the pro vs anti Trump crowds... no mention of the Capitol FYI). Ornato didn't recall the 10,000 conversation at first, but later said he recalls Meadows telling the DC Mayor that Trump is willing to ask for up to 10,000 guardsmen for the pro vs anti Trump crowds.

                        This is a little different than the "President Donald Trump pushed for 10,000 National Guard troops to protect the nation’s capital" claim.

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          89th
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                          #12

                          I notice the article says capital instead of Capitol, btw. Subtle, but on purpose.

                          One is an informal reference to a city, the other one is what actually was attacked.

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                          • George KG George K

                            Josh Hawley should get an Oscar too...

                            Screenshot 2024-03-11 at 8.01.28 AM.png

                            89th8 Offline
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                            89th
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                            #13

                            @George-K said in Liz Lied:

                            Josh Hawley should get an Oscar too...

                            Totally not a fake photo I just made

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                              taiwan_girl
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                              Good job @89th

                              PS Did you also use your photo skills on the recent picture of the royal princess in UK? LOL

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
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                                89th is invested in ignoring the Truth.

                                Carry on, lad.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  Good job @89th

                                  PS Did you also use your photo skills on the recent picture of the royal princess in UK? LOL

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                                  89th
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                                  @taiwan_girl said in Liz Lied:

                                  Good job @89th

                                  PS Did you also use your photo skills on the recent picture of the royal princess in UK? LOL

                                  Haha no but I read a passing article about it... it boggles my mind that they'd have so many errors on such a public image.

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    89th is invested in ignoring the Truth.

                                    Carry on, lad.

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                                    89th
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                                    @Jolly said in Liz Lied:

                                    89th is invested in ignoring the Truth.

                                    Carry on, lad.

                                    No just trying to be fair and not bite into the sensationalism from either side. I think the truth is pretty self-evident now with what happened. Trump didn't lead the march into the Capitol nor did the FBI plant agents to secretly rile people up. Hindsight is 50/50 but it would be pretty silly to have 10,000 military guys show up for a sore loser temper tantrum rally.

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                                      10,000 National Guard troops?
                                      You folks have given up on the "peaceful tourists taking selfies" narrative, right?
                                      Why would one "pushed for 10,000 National Guard troops" just for peaceful tourists taking selfies?

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        @Jolly said in Liz Lied:

                                        89th is invested in ignoring the Truth.

                                        Carry on, lad.

                                        No just trying to be fair and not bite into the sensationalism from either side. I think the truth is pretty self-evident now with what happened. Trump didn't lead the march into the Capitol nor did the FBI plant agents to secretly rile people up. Hindsight is 50/50 but it would be pretty silly to have 10,000 military guys show up for a sore loser temper tantrum rally.

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                                        Renauda
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                                        @89th said in Liz Lied:

                                        @Jolly said in Liz Lied:

                                        89th is invested in ignoring the Truth.

                                        Carry on, lad.

                                        No just trying to be fair and not bite into the sensationalism from either side. I think the truth is pretty self-evident now with what happened. Trump didn't lead the march into the Capitol nor did the FBI plant agents to secretly rile people up.

                                        Hang in there 89. Pay no attention to the gossips.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          10,000 National Guard troops?
                                          You folks have given up on the "peaceful tourists taking selfies" narrative, right?
                                          Why would one "pushed for 10,000 National Guard troops" just for peaceful tourists taking selfies?

                                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          #20

                                          @Axtremus said in Liz Lied:

                                          Why would one "pushed for 10,000 National Guard troops" just for peaceful tourists taking selfies?

                                          Maybe they were worried about TikTok users compromising national security.

                                          I was only joking

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