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Racism update 2024/02/20

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    He speaks and performs well, for an overbearing blowhard. I mean it's not just me. The comments under that video are almost unanimous. Those who know him by reputation still have a lot of respect for him, but in that sense he is a figurehead, and he is a figurehead because he was promoted to be such. And he was promoted to be such due in large part because the west loves to promote people of color to classically white figurehead positions. Anyway obviously this is not provable and we can disagree. I'm not convinced that there is no bullpen behind him containing one or more white faces. Not that I care about who is or is not the popular face of science, I just can't not acknowledge the skin color aspect of that position and how giddy the culture is to promote an appropriate looking person in that role.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • George KG George K

      Remember the "Cosmos" reboot?

      What a disgusting piece of television.

      Sagan wept.

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      @George-K said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

      Remember the "Cosmos" reboot?

      What a disgusting piece of television.

      Total garbage - comicbook television. There's better homegrown stuff on YouTube.

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      • George KG George K

        @Copper said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

        Mr. Tyson has always been wrong about almost everything.

        That's Professor DeGrasse Tyson to you, pleb.

        He's not a bad physicist/educator.

        Though I have no knowledge of how good a physicist he is. At least his academic credentials are better than Mr. Nye (the "Science" Guy).

        Looking at his Curriculum Vitae, it looks like he's been unemployed for about 20 years (at least in academia).

        Screenshot 2024-02-20 at 8.13.34 PM.png

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        @George-K said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

        @Copper said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

        Mr. Tyson has always been wrong about almost everything.

        That's Professor DeGrasse Tyson to you, pleb.

        He's not a bad physicist/educator.

        Though I have no knowledge of how good a physicist he is. At least his academic credentials are better than Mr. Nye (the "Science" Guy).

        SCIENCE!

        Link to video

        The Brad

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          I never saw the original Cosmos series by Sagan, but I don't think elite intellectuals like yourselves was the target for the Cosmos reboot. Yes I watched it, and yes I enjoyed it. Yes I have a simple brain. But sometimes it's nice to get a glossy overview of how things work out there in the........cosmos.

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          • 89th8 89th

            I never saw the original Cosmos series by Sagan, but I don't think elite intellectuals like yourselves was the target for the Cosmos reboot. Yes I watched it, and yes I enjoyed it. Yes I have a simple brain. But sometimes it's nice to get a glossy overview of how things work out there in the........cosmos.

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            @89th said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

            I never saw the original Cosmos series by Sagan

            Very, very much worth your time, even if it has a 1980's vibe to it.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              89th
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              Sweet, will add to t3h l1st!

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @George-K said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                @Copper said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                Mr. Tyson has always been wrong about almost everything.

                That's Professor DeGrasse Tyson to you, pleb.

                He's not a bad physicist/educator.

                Though I have no knowledge of how good a physicist he is. At least his academic credentials are better than Mr. Nye (the "Science" Guy).

                SCIENCE!

                Link to video

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                Horace
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                @LuFins-Dad said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                @George-K said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                @Copper said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                Mr. Tyson has always been wrong about almost everything.

                That's Professor DeGrasse Tyson to you, pleb.

                He's not a bad physicist/educator.

                Though I have no knowledge of how good a physicist he is. At least his academic credentials are better than Mr. Nye (the "Science" Guy).

                SCIENCE!

                Link to video

                NDT is definitely smarter and better than Bill Nye (and actually less captured by progressive culture). But I think they play different roles. Nye was always a marginal figure and part clown, as far as I ever absorbed from him.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Of all the pointless celebrities out there making a small or large fortune, people who actually try and educate us about science are quite close to the end of my admittedly rather long list of people to dislike.

                  I was only joking

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                    89th
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                    Hahaha well said.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #20

                      Considering the fact that neither Tyson or Nye are educating anyone about science and are instead trying to lend a false veneer of science to socio-political views kinda makes your point irrelevant.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Considering the fact that neither Tyson or Nye are educating anyone about science and are instead trying to lend a false veneer of science to socio-political views kinda makes your point irrelevant.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                        Considering the fact that neither Tyson or Nye are educating anyone about science and are instead trying to lend a false veneer of science to socio-political views kinda makes your point irrelevant.

                        Isn't the majority of Tyson's output the popular science stuff rather than the social stuff? I have to admit I've never watched Bill Nye. The fact that he said things you don't like about race doesn't make his science irrelevant. It's not like we're inundated with science education, groups of drunken eejits blowing shit up on YouTube notwithstanding.

                        Like I said, there's plenty of people in front of him to dislike if I feel the need.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                          Considering the fact that neither Tyson or Nye are educating anyone about science and are instead trying to lend a false veneer of science to socio-political views kinda makes your point irrelevant.

                          Isn't the majority of Tyson's output the popular science stuff rather than the social stuff? I have to admit I've never watched Bill Nye. The fact that he said things you don't like about race doesn't make his science irrelevant. It's not like we're inundated with science education, groups of drunken eejits blowing shit up on YouTube notwithstanding.

                          Like I said, there's plenty of people in front of him to dislike if I feel the need.

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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                          Considering the fact that neither Tyson or Nye are educating anyone about science and are instead trying to lend a false veneer of science to socio-political views kinda makes your point irrelevant.

                          Isn't the majority of Tyson's output the popular science stuff rather than the social stuff? I have to admit I've never watched Bill Nye. The fact that he said things you don't like about race doesn't make his science irrelevant. It's not like we're inundated with science education, groups of drunken eejits blowing shit up on YouTube notwithstanding.

                          Like I said, there's plenty of people in front of him to dislike if I feel the need.

                          I know little about Nye other than that he's part clown. Tyson writes lots of popular science books and columns, and occasionally rankles when he speaks to the intersection of culture and science. Most recently in his side-taking against those who think there are biological sexes, or that genetic males shouldn't be competing with genetic females. He talks about that stuff in podcasts, but I doubt writes about them. It is clear to most people who follow along with his discussions, that he is a reliable parrot of the progressive popular culture narratives, and often those narratives are actually at odds with a principled science based perspective. He chooses popular culture over science and reason, when forced to choose. You can roll your eyes at those who take exception to that as you please.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                            Considering the fact that neither Tyson or Nye are educating anyone about science and are instead trying to lend a false veneer of science to socio-political views kinda makes your point irrelevant.

                            Isn't the majority of Tyson's output the popular science stuff rather than the social stuff? I have to admit I've never watched Bill Nye. The fact that he said things you don't like about race doesn't make his science irrelevant. It's not like we're inundated with science education, groups of drunken eejits blowing shit up on YouTube notwithstanding.

                            Like I said, there's plenty of people in front of him to dislike if I feel the need.

                            I know little about Nye other than that he's part clown. Tyson writes lots of popular science books and columns, and occasionally rankles when he speaks to the intersection of culture and science. Most recently in his side-taking against those who think there are biological sexes, or that genetic males shouldn't be competing with genetic females. He talks about that stuff in podcasts, but I doubt writes about them. It is clear to most people who follow along with his discussions, that he is a reliable parrot of the progressive popular culture narratives, and often those narratives are actually at odds with a principled science based perspective. He chooses popular culture over science and reason, when forced to choose. You can roll your eyes at those who take exception to that as you please.

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                            @Horace said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                            He chooses popular culture over science and reason, when forced to choose.

                            As our President might say, if you don't choose popular culture over science and reason, you ain't a democrat.

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                              Come here to check on things and see nothing is changed except my ever increasing burning desire to meet Horace in person to knock the dog shit out that fills his cranium. What a piece of crap you are Horace. Can’t wait till y’all have to crawl back under your fucking rocks after Trump goes to prison forever. I just don’t understand how the few decent people that still reside here put up with this daily bullshit. Twisted brains still rule the roost here.

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                                Any luck recovering the pooch, NS?

                                Horrible story.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  Come here to check on things and see nothing is changed except my ever increasing burning desire to meet Horace in person to knock the dog shit out that fills his cranium. What a piece of crap you are Horace. Can’t wait till y’all have to crawl back under your fucking rocks after Trump goes to prison forever. I just don’t understand how the few decent people that still reside here put up with this daily bullshit. Twisted brains still rule the roost here.

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                                  @NobodySock said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                                  Come here to check on things and see nothing is changed except my ever increasing burning desire to meet Horace in person to knock the dog shit out that fills his cranium. What a piece of crap you are Horace. Can’t wait till y’all have to crawl back under your fucking rocks after Trump goes to prison forever. I just don’t understand how the few decent people that still reside here put up with this daily bullshit. Twisted brains still rule the roost here.

                                  I would pay almost good money to see you try to beat the dog shit out of L'il Horace.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @NobodySock said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                                    Come here to check on things and see nothing is changed except my ever increasing burning desire to meet Horace in person to knock the dog shit out that fills his cranium. What a piece of crap you are Horace. Can’t wait till y’all have to crawl back under your fucking rocks after Trump goes to prison forever. I just don’t understand how the few decent people that still reside here put up with this daily bullshit. Twisted brains still rule the roost here.

                                    I would pay almost good money to see you try to beat the dog shit out of L'il Horace.

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                                    @Jolly said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                                    I would pay almost good money to see you try to beat the dog shit out of L'il Horace.

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                                      Come here to check on things and see nothing is changed except my ever increasing burning desire to meet Horace in person to knock the dog shit out that fills his cranium. What a piece of crap you are Horace. Can’t wait till y’all have to crawl back under your fucking rocks after Trump goes to prison forever. I just don’t understand how the few decent people that still reside here put up with this daily bullshit. Twisted brains still rule the roost here.

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                                      @NobodySock said in Racism update 2024/02/20:

                                      Come here to check on things and see nothing is changed except my ever increasing burning desire to meet Horace in person to knock the dog shit out that fills his cranium. What a piece of crap you are Horace. Can’t wait till y’all have to crawl back under your fucking rocks after Trump goes to prison forever. I just don’t understand how the few decent people that still reside here put up with this daily bullshit. Twisted brains still rule the roost here.

                                      You know where to find me. I live in CA, up towards Berkeley. I took a short drive up to Napa and will be staying there for a couple days. Come on up and let’s settle this. I’ll be the tall white guy.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Here's his pic.

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                                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                          Nah, he's shaved since then.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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