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Parents Highly Involved in Their Adult Children’s Lives

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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    Source: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kay-Axhausen/publication/228540313_Activity_Spaces_Biographies_Social_Networks_and_Their_Welfare_Gains_and_Externalities_Some_Hypotheses_and_Empirical_Results/links/004635199ca570f4cb000000/Activity-Spaces-Biographies-Social-Networks-and-Their-Welfare-Gains-and-Externalities-Some-Hypotheses-and-Empirical-Results.pdf

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    • MikM Offline
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      What point are you trying to make?

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • MikM Mik

        What point are you trying to make?

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        @Mik said in Parents Highly Involved in Their Adult Children’s Lives:

        What point are you trying to make?

        Cheaper to call Mom & Dad?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • AxtremusA Away
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          Data support for what some of you suggest: Cost of communication comes down, so people (including parents and adult children) communicate more.

          I was curious if there was a single event that caused the cost of communication to drop suddenly (e.g., deregulation or the introduction of a technology), but it seems the curve has been pretty smooth since the 1960#.

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            It is now. Long distance is so 20th century. But when I was running my company out of my house I normally had $200+ monthly phone bills.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • MikM Mik

              It is now. Long distance is so 20th century. But when I was running my company out of my house I normally had $200+ monthly phone bills.

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              @Mik said in Parents Highly Involved in Their Adult Children’s Lives:

              But when I was running my company out of my house I normally had $200+ monthly phone bills.

              Add up home Internet and cellphone bills … they probably still add up to $200+ per month for a typical household of 4 today (in 2024 dollars, of course).

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                I think it was mostly our Military adventures from WWII through Vietnam along with the construction of the highway system that turned us into a much more mobile society. We used to pretty much stay in the same town we grew up in. Regular contact with the family was pretty constant when you are in the same general area. As we started spreading out, contact was by necessity lessened, and by the time we got to the the 70s and 80s it was much more common to have adult children and their parents have far more separate lives. There will be cases where that’s probably best for everybody, but I believe that for the most part it’s not. Multigenerational households have essentially disappeared, and familial support systems for young families is almost nonexistent. I don’t think that is beneficial overall.

                When I was a kid, we were visiting multiple grandparents 1-2 times a week, and phone calls happened daily. Today, my kids don’t really know their uncles and aunts on both sides. We visit my dad maybe twice a year, but we do text and call several times a week. Even that really isn’t enough, IMO. I’m very glad that we hear from Lucas in a daily basis by text, and average 2 phone calls per week.

                Karla and I are both prepping for our retirement to be based close to wherever our kids wind up. We want to be there for them. If they end up in separate geographical locations, we’ll explore alternatives to a single family home. Maybe condos to be able to travel between.

                But the dream is to buy a 4 season vacation house as well in a spot where everyone would like to come together for holidays or vacations and such. The goal is for that spot to also be arranged in a manner that it will stay in the family, be shared between the boys and their families and try to keep them close after we’re gone.

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                • MikM Mik

                  What point are you trying to make?

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                  @Mik said in Parents Highly Involved in Their Adult Children’s Lives:

                  What point are you trying to make?

                  The obvious conclusion is that Mr. Eisenhower wasn't as good as other presidents at managing telephone costs.

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                    @Mik said in Parents Highly Involved in Their Adult Children’s Lives:

                    But when I was running my company out of my house I normally had $200+ monthly phone bills.

                    Add up home Internet and cellphone bills … they probably still add up to $200+ per month for a typical household of 4 today (in 2024 dollars, of course).

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                    @Axtremus said in Parents Highly Involved in Their Adult Children’s Lives:

                    @Mik said in Parents Highly Involved in Their Adult Children’s Lives:

                    But when I was running my company out of my house I normally had $200+ monthly phone bills.

                    Add up home Internet and cellphone bills … they probably still add up to $200+ per month for a typical household of 4 today (in 2024 dollars, of course).

                    About half that.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      I think it was mostly our Military adventures from WWII through Vietnam along with the construction of the highway system that turned us into a much more mobile society. We used to pretty much stay in the same town we grew up in. Regular contact with the family was pretty constant when you are in the same general area. As we started spreading out, contact was by necessity lessened, and by the time we got to the the 70s and 80s it was much more common to have adult children and their parents have far more separate lives. There will be cases where that’s probably best for everybody, but I believe that for the most part it’s not. Multigenerational households have essentially disappeared, and familial support systems for young families is almost nonexistent. I don’t think that is beneficial overall.

                      When I was a kid, we were visiting multiple grandparents 1-2 times a week, and phone calls happened daily. Today, my kids don’t really know their uncles and aunts on both sides. We visit my dad maybe twice a year, but we do text and call several times a week. Even that really isn’t enough, IMO. I’m very glad that we hear from Lucas in a daily basis by text, and average 2 phone calls per week.

                      Karla and I are both prepping for our retirement to be based close to wherever our kids wind up. We want to be there for them. If they end up in separate geographical locations, we’ll explore alternatives to a single family home. Maybe condos to be able to travel between.

                      But the dream is to buy a 4 season vacation house as well in a spot where everyone would like to come together for holidays or vacations and such. The goal is for that spot to also be arranged in a manner that it will stay in the family, be shared between the boys and their families and try to keep them close after we’re gone.

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                      @LuFins-Dad good plan. Similar to ours.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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