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The Apple Vision Pro

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    No porn.

    Ax will be disappointed.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • markM Offline
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      wrote on last edited by mark
      #5

      I can't imagine anyone paying so much for so little. I watched a pretty complete demo of this thing and it really does nothing of merit. Facetime seems to be the "cool app" but it is certainly not worth the asking price.

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      • markM mark

        I can't imagine anyone paying so much for so little. I watched a pretty complete demo of this thing and it really does nothing of merit. Facetime seems to be the "cool app" but it is certainly not worth the asking price.

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        George K
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        #6

        @mark said in The Apple Vision Pro:

        I watched a pretty complete demo of this thing and it really does nothing of merit.

        In person or online? I've read that the in person experience is quite different.

        Facetime seems to be the "cool app" but it is certainly not worth the asking price.

        Yeah, but, how many people do you FaceTime with? In my case - zero.

        I've not read/seen much about how it does as a VR device. Its focus seems to be on what Apple calls "Spacial Computing," whatever TF that is.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          Very excited for these - seems like a fantastic new product.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            Very excited for these - seems like a fantastic new product.

            MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            @Horace said in The Apple Vision Pro:

            Very excited for these - seems like a fantastic new product.

            Finboi. (like fanboi, but financial)

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              One of the cool things that I saw as a possibility was concert "seats" or sporting event "seats".

              Also, I heard that Apple intentionally set the initial price quite high to limit demand until supply and software apps, etc. were more of them.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                Good way to kill demand and software development.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros

                  For some Apple Vision Pro buyers, the honeymoon is already over.

                  It’s no coincidence that there’s been an uptick on social media of Vision Pro owners saying they’re returning their $3,500 headsets in the past few days. Apple allows you to return any product within 14 days of purchase — and for the first wave of Vision Pro buyers, we’re right about at that point.

                  Comfort is among the most cited reasons for returns. People have said the headset gives them headaches and triggers motion sickness. The weight of the device, and the fact that most of it is front-loaded, has been another complaint. Parker Ortolani, The Verge’s product manager, told me that he thought using the device led to a burst blood vessel in his eye. At least one other person noted they had a similar experience with redness. (To be fair, VR headset users have anecdotally reported dry eyes and redness for years.)

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    89th
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                    #12

                    For those who complain about it being front-heavy. Have they tried buying a 2nd pair and wearing it backwards?

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                      #13

                      Or, lie on their back.

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                        Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros

                        For some Apple Vision Pro buyers, the honeymoon is already over.

                        It’s no coincidence that there’s been an uptick on social media of Vision Pro owners saying they’re returning their $3,500 headsets in the past few days. Apple allows you to return any product within 14 days of purchase — and for the first wave of Vision Pro buyers, we’re right about at that point.

                        Comfort is among the most cited reasons for returns. People have said the headset gives them headaches and triggers motion sickness. The weight of the device, and the fact that most of it is front-loaded, has been another complaint. Parker Ortolani, The Verge’s product manager, told me that he thought using the device led to a burst blood vessel in his eye. At least one other person noted they had a similar experience with redness. (To be fair, VR headset users have anecdotally reported dry eyes and redness for years.)

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        @George-K said in The Apple Vision Pro:

                        Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros

                        For some Apple Vision Pro buyers, the honeymoon is already over.

                        It’s no coincidence that there’s been an uptick on social media of Vision Pro owners saying they’re returning their $3,500 headsets in the past few days. Apple allows you to return any product within 14 days of purchase — and for the first wave of Vision Pro buyers, we’re right about at that point.

                        Comfort is among the most cited reasons for returns. People have said the headset gives them headaches and triggers motion sickness. The weight of the device, and the fact that most of it is front-loaded, has been another complaint. Parker Ortolani, The Verge’s product manager, told me that he thought using the device led to a burst blood vessel in his eye. At least one other person noted they had a similar experience with redness. (To be fair, VR headset users have anecdotally reported dry eyes and redness for years.)

                        O'Leary (of Shark Tank) said last night that even the best VR has a millisecond delay and that causes symptoms ranging from headaches to nausea, due to the brain perceiving the delay or hitch and juxtaposing that against what the brain knows is reality. These symptoms occur in 30% of people.

                        Why create a product that a third of your potential customers can't use?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @George-K said in The Apple Vision Pro:

                          Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros

                          For some Apple Vision Pro buyers, the honeymoon is already over.

                          It’s no coincidence that there’s been an uptick on social media of Vision Pro owners saying they’re returning their $3,500 headsets in the past few days. Apple allows you to return any product within 14 days of purchase — and for the first wave of Vision Pro buyers, we’re right about at that point.

                          Comfort is among the most cited reasons for returns. People have said the headset gives them headaches and triggers motion sickness. The weight of the device, and the fact that most of it is front-loaded, has been another complaint. Parker Ortolani, The Verge’s product manager, told me that he thought using the device led to a burst blood vessel in his eye. At least one other person noted they had a similar experience with redness. (To be fair, VR headset users have anecdotally reported dry eyes and redness for years.)

                          O'Leary (of Shark Tank) said last night that even the best VR has a millisecond delay and that causes symptoms ranging from headaches to nausea, due to the brain perceiving the delay or hitch and juxtaposing that against what the brain knows is reality. These symptoms occur in 30% of people.

                          Why create a product that a third of your potential customers can't use?

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #15

                          @Jolly said in The Apple Vision Pro:

                          Why create a product that a third of your potential customers can't use?

                          Especially at a ridiculous price point. The 3 VR Headsets I have purchased don't even breech the $1,000 point combined! They are all still fully functional and I use them for various purposes.

                          I am not one of the 33.3% that suffers from the headaches or nausea.

                          I especially love VR racing (F1, GT Road racing) and playing golf and mini golf with my daughter and friends. Getting in a round without having to pay greens fees, worrying about lost balls, or even traveling to the course is awesome.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            I suspect I would shoot a lot lower in VR than RL too. 😆

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @George-K said in The Apple Vision Pro:

                              Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros

                              For some Apple Vision Pro buyers, the honeymoon is already over.

                              It’s no coincidence that there’s been an uptick on social media of Vision Pro owners saying they’re returning their $3,500 headsets in the past few days. Apple allows you to return any product within 14 days of purchase — and for the first wave of Vision Pro buyers, we’re right about at that point.

                              Comfort is among the most cited reasons for returns. People have said the headset gives them headaches and triggers motion sickness. The weight of the device, and the fact that most of it is front-loaded, has been another complaint. Parker Ortolani, The Verge’s product manager, told me that he thought using the device led to a burst blood vessel in his eye. At least one other person noted they had a similar experience with redness. (To be fair, VR headset users have anecdotally reported dry eyes and redness for years.)

                              O'Leary (of Shark Tank) said last night that even the best VR has a millisecond delay and that causes symptoms ranging from headaches to nausea, due to the brain perceiving the delay or hitch and juxtaposing that against what the brain knows is reality. These symptoms occur in 30% of people.

                              Why create a product that a third of your potential customers can't use?

                              AxtremusA Offline
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              @Jolly said in The Apple Vision Pro:

                              Why create a product that a third of your potential customers can't use?

                              Market segmentation.
                              Different people think it’s a good idea in different situations.

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @George-K said in The Apple Vision Pro:

                                Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros

                                For some Apple Vision Pro buyers, the honeymoon is already over.

                                It’s no coincidence that there’s been an uptick on social media of Vision Pro owners saying they’re returning their $3,500 headsets in the past few days. Apple allows you to return any product within 14 days of purchase — and for the first wave of Vision Pro buyers, we’re right about at that point.

                                Comfort is among the most cited reasons for returns. People have said the headset gives them headaches and triggers motion sickness. The weight of the device, and the fact that most of it is front-loaded, has been another complaint. Parker Ortolani, The Verge’s product manager, told me that he thought using the device led to a burst blood vessel in his eye. At least one other person noted they had a similar experience with redness. (To be fair, VR headset users have anecdotally reported dry eyes and redness for years.)

                                O'Leary (of Shark Tank) said last night that even the best VR has a millisecond delay and that causes symptoms ranging from headaches to nausea, due to the brain perceiving the delay or hitch and juxtaposing that against what the brain knows is reality. These symptoms occur in 30% of people.

                                Why create a product that a third of your potential customers can't use?

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #18

                                @Jolly said in The Apple Vision Pro:

                                Why create a product that a third of your potential customers can't use?

                                Apple isn't selling it as a "VR" type of device, though it could be used as such.

                                They're trying to make a "different" type of computing, much as iOS was "different" from desktop computing.

                                I dunno if there's a market for that, however.

                                It's got a high "gee whiz" factor, but $3500? Nah.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Worth every penny, IMO.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Google Glass 2.0… There is a market for this, but not at the level Apple believes.

                                    As for the concerts and sporting event VR application that @taiwan_girl mentioned, I don’t think that will really be very appealing. A live sporting event or even a concert is primarily about the atmosphere, the crowd, the energy… That won’t translate in VR. I won’t be able to razz the guy 3 rows away in the Baltimore jersey, give high fives to the fans around me, etc…. No chance to catch a fly ball, can’t smell the popcorn, etc…

                                    The Brad

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                                      #21

                                      Sales not "meeting expectations."

                                      https://www.macrumors.com/2024/04/23/apple-cuts-vision-pro-shipments/

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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