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Tech Costs 💰

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    #4

    Yeah - repair cost on this stuff is through the roof. That said, some tech features must be pushing down collisions and costs as well: automatic collision-detection braking, lane change monitors (and intervention), etc.

    I think the problem is that cell phones are probably driving up collisions at the same time. In countries with more manual transmissions collision rates are relatively lower over the last 10 or so years - presumably because you can't use a smartphone with a stick shift easily.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      Do you like all those sensors?
      Back up camera, 360° view cameras, proximity alerts, blind spot monitors, collision avoidance auto breaking, driver assistance that keeps you in lane or even parks the car for you …

      I reckon we are in this transition period where the insurers know the cost of these additional parts and system but haven’t the actuarial data to adjust for the reduced risks brought by these additional parts and systems.

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      LuFins Dad
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      @Axtremus said in Tech Costs 💰:

      Do you like all those sensors?
      Back up camera, 360° view cameras, proximity alerts, blind spot monitors, collision avoidance auto breaking, driver assistance that keeps you in lane or even parks the car for you …

      I reckon we are in this transition period where the insurers know the cost of these additional parts and system but haven’t the actuarial data to adjust for the reduced risks brought by these additional parts and systems.

      No. They’ve been mandated since 2017 and were common five years before that. The actuarial data was actually used as part of the argument to mandate backup cameras.

      The Brad

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        LuFins Dad
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        Correction, backup cameras have been mandated. Point still stands.

        The Brad

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Actually, I think I can drive pretty well without them.

          About the only new technologies I can see being used, is the ability to disable some smartphone functions while the car is moving and the (dirt cheap) backup camera.

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          @Jolly said in Tech Costs 💰:

          Actually, I think I can drive pretty well without them.

          I saw a poll and I thought it was somewhat funny but true. Something like 80% of male drivers consider themselves to be an above average driver. LOL

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @Jolly said in Tech Costs 💰:

            Actually, I think I can drive pretty well without them.

            I saw a poll and I thought it was somewhat funny but true. Something like 80% of male drivers consider themselves to be an above average driver. LOL

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            @taiwan_girl said in Tech Costs 💰:

            @Jolly said in Tech Costs 💰:

            Actually, I think I can drive pretty well without them.

            I saw a poll and I thought it was somewhat funny but true. Something like 80% of male drivers consider themselves to be an above average driver. LOL

            Juice ain't worth the squeeze.

            Never mind...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @taiwan_girl said in Tech Costs 💰:

              @Jolly said in Tech Costs 💰:

              Actually, I think I can drive pretty well without them.

              I saw a poll and I thought it was somewhat funny but true. Something like 80% of male drivers consider themselves to be an above average driver. LOL

              Juice ain't worth the squeeze.

              Never mind...

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              taiwan_girl
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              @Jolly said in Tech Costs 💰:

              Juice ain't worth the squeeze.

              I think that is Louisiana talk. LOL

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Jolly said in Tech Costs 💰:

                Actually, I think I can drive pretty well without them.

                I saw a poll and I thought it was somewhat funny but true. Something like 80% of male drivers consider themselves to be an above average driver. LOL

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                LuFins Dad
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                @taiwan_girl said in Tech Costs 💰:

                @Jolly said in Tech Costs 💰:

                Actually, I think I can drive pretty well without them.

                I saw a poll and I thought it was somewhat funny but true. Something like 80% of male drivers consider themselves to be an above average driver. LOL

                Everybody on the highway that is driving faster than me are lunatics and a danger to themselves and others and shouldn’t be on the road.

                Everybody on the highway driving slower than me are incompetent drivers and are obviously petrified and a danger to themselves and others and shouldn’t be on the road.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @taiwan_girl said in Tech Costs 💰:

                  @Jolly said in Tech Costs 💰:

                  Actually, I think I can drive pretty well without them.

                  I saw a poll and I thought it was somewhat funny but true. Something like 80% of male drivers consider themselves to be an above average driver. LOL

                  Everybody on the highway that is driving faster than me are lunatics and a danger to themselves and others and shouldn’t be on the road.

                  Everybody on the highway driving slower than me are incompetent drivers and are obviously petrified and a danger to themselves and others and shouldn’t be on the road.

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                  Axtremus
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                  #11

                  @LuFins-Dad, the obvious solution is the transporter; virtually Scotty would just beam you anywhere, instantly.

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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #12

                    https://www.thezebra.com/resources/research/new-car-tech-wont-lower-insurance-rates/

                    This article linked to another.. it looks like the number of lethal accidents are increasing despite all the new features.

                    https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/driver-assist-technology-distracting/

                    The Brad

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                      #13

                      Maybe the speed restrictors that California is proposing is the answer.

                      https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/29281/slow-down-in-california?_=1706711269010

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