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A bad year for Boeing.

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    George K
    wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 12:57 last edited by George K 3 Nov 2024, 12:58
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    Justice Department Opens Probe, Interviews Crew in Alaska Airlines Blowout

    The Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into the Boeing 737 MAX blowout on an Alaska Airlines flight, according to documents and people familiar with the matter.

    Investigators have contacted some passengers and crew on the Jan. 5 flight, which made an emergency landing in Portland, Ore., after a fuselage panel ripped off midair, according to the documents and people.

    As part of the new investigation, the Justice Department has interviewed pilots and flight attendants on the flight.
    “In an event like this, it’s normal for the DOJ to be conducting an investigation. We are fully cooperating and do not believe we are a target of the investigation,” Alaska Airlines said.

    The probe would inform the Justice Department’s review of whether Boeing BA -2.24%decrease; red down pointing triangle complied with an earlier settlement that resolved a federal investigation following two fatal 737 MAX crashes in 2018 and 2019. Investigations don’t always result in formal charges of wrongdoing.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 22:02 last edited by
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      "Self-inflicted."

      https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 22:37 last edited by
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        And more bad luck...

        Link to video

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 01:18 last edited by
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          @George-K The wheel door cover did not close?

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 01:31 last edited by
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            https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703

            A former Boeing employee known for raising concerns about the firm's production standards has been found dead in the US.
            John Barnett had worked for Boeing for 32 years, until his retirement in 2017.
            In the days before his death, he had been giving evidence in a whistleblower lawsuit against the company.
            Boeing said it was saddened to hear of Mr Barnett's passing. The Charleston County coroner confirmed his death to the BBC on Monday.
            It said the 62-year-old had died from a "self-inflicted" wound on 9 March and police were investigating.

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              12 Mar 2024, 01:18

              @George-K The wheel door cover did not close?

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              89th
              wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 02:18 last edited by
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              @taiwan_girl said in A bad year for Boeing.:

              @George-K The wheel door cover did not close?

              Nope, on take-off you can see "smoke" (what experts are saying is actually a hydraulic leak) and the open landing gear doors is likely a sign they were manually opened using an alternative method, if the hydraulics were at risk. On the ground later it was likely a hydraulic leak that looks like smoke.

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                11 Mar 2024, 22:02

                "Self-inflicted."

                https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 02:37 last edited by
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                @George-K said in A bad year for Boeing.:

                "Self-inflicted."

                https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703

                Assuming it was self-inflicted, you've got to wonder what people may have been saying to him, either in person or on-line

                I was only joking

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                  kluurs
                  wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 19:46 last edited by
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                  https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLLmTqQr/

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                    kluurs
                    wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 19:52 last edited by
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                    Boeing workers not keen on Boeing aircraft. Boeing moved from engineering focused management to business school leadership Questionable decision .

                    https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLLm3f6R/

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                      George K
                      wrote on 12 Mar 2024, 21:04 last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 13 Mar 2024, 09:34 last edited by
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                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 13 Mar 2024, 12:43 last edited by
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                          "Boeing is the best salesman Airbus ever had."

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            89th
                            wrote on 14 Mar 2024, 13:14 last edited by
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                            From March 6th:

                            Link to video

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                              89th
                              wrote on 14 Mar 2024, 13:17 last edited by
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                              More info about the system itself. Don't watch if you would prefer not to know how many things rely on the bleed air system. 😄

                              Link to video

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                                Aqua's Sister
                                wrote on 14 Mar 2024, 13:18 last edited by
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                                "Oh, give us the long one."

                                That's what I said last night.

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                                  12 Mar 2024, 19:52

                                  Boeing workers not keen on Boeing aircraft. Boeing moved from engineering focused management to business school leadership Questionable decision .

                                  https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLLm3f6R/

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 14 Mar 2024, 13:24 last edited by
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                                  @kluurs said in A bad year for Boeing.:

                                  Boeing workers not keen on Boeing aircraft. Boeing moved from engineering focused management to business school leadership Questionable decision .

                                  https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLLm3f6R/

                                  Clipboards.

                                  The clipboards have almost ruined healthcare. I see they are now taking their "skills" to other industries.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    14 Mar 2024, 13:24

                                    @kluurs said in A bad year for Boeing.:

                                    Boeing workers not keen on Boeing aircraft. Boeing moved from engineering focused management to business school leadership Questionable decision .

                                    https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLLm3f6R/

                                    Clipboards.

                                    The clipboards have almost ruined healthcare. I see they are now taking their "skills" to other industries.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 14 Mar 2024, 18:34 last edited by
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                                    @Jolly said in A bad year for Boeing.:

                                    The clipboards have almost ruined healthcare. I see they are now taking their "skills" to other industries.

                                    I've seen this elsewhere. The company I worked for in Canada was set up by a bunch of former GE engineers, and was then subjected to the invasion of the zombie bean-counters. I ended up being told what to do by a "project manager" who appeared to be struggling to grow a moustache never mind a business, and had absolutely no idea what was involved in what the R&D team was doing.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      14 Mar 2024, 18:34

                                      @Jolly said in A bad year for Boeing.:

                                      The clipboards have almost ruined healthcare. I see they are now taking their "skills" to other industries.

                                      I've seen this elsewhere. The company I worked for in Canada was set up by a bunch of former GE engineers, and was then subjected to the invasion of the zombie bean-counters. I ended up being told what to do by a "project manager" who appeared to be struggling to grow a moustache never mind a business, and had absolutely no idea what was involved in what the R&D team was doing.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 14 Mar 2024, 19:00 last edited by
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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in A bad year for Boeing.:

                                      bean-counters

                                      Wasn't it Lee Iacocca who coined the term? I remember reading his book back in the day.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 14 Mar 2024, 19:04 last edited by
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 15 Mar 2024, 00:26 last edited by
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                                          Shucks, Robert McNamara lost a whole damn war...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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