Trump Disqualified in Colorado

[Jolly]

Trump did not engage in insurrection.

Show me where he was charged and convicted.

[LuFins Dad]

Call me crazy, but I believe there are a large number of people on the left that are hoping Trump wins. Some actively as it offers excuse for their anarchistic and violent desires. Others less actively, but believe there are opportunities to profit either economically or politically. Still others just through a sense of schadenfreude.

[Horace]

There is a fundamental incoherence in any "nuanced" opinion that simultaneously holds that Trump is a full stop insurrectionist, and that he should still be allowed to run for president. Anybody who thinks he is an insurrectionist, and who believes in the constitution, should hold that Trump should be barred from office. It's actually super simple. But far be it for TDS sufferers who want to maintain an air of nuance to admit basic logic and constitutionality.

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

Call me crazy, but I believe there are a large number of people on the left that are hoping Trump wins. Some actively as it offers excuse for their anarchistic and violent desires. Others less actively, but believe there are opportunities to profit either economically or politically. Still others just through a sense of schadenfreude.

Totally reasonable take. Live with a hatred long enough, and you may miss it when it's gone. It becomes part of one's meaning of life.

[Horace]

Personally, I have some interest in the civil unrest that will occur throughout another Trump presidency, and the tacit acceptance of it by the mainstream left. A lot of "virtuous" people would descend into madness, and they'll secretly enjoy the moral leeway their self-righteousness will give them.

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

Call me crazy, but I believe there are a large number of people on the left that are hoping Trump wins. Some actively as it offers excuse for their anarchistic and violent desires. Others less actively, but believe there are opportunities to profit either economically or politically. Still others just through a sense of schadenfreude.

I think there's another facet...

We are past due for a really hard recession. We have a huge debt problem, so jump-starting an economy through tax cuts would be almost impossible.

I think some far-sighted Dems have already pulled up the rails and would love to see the GOP train derailed by a bad economy.

[89th]

@Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

Trump did not engage in insurrection.

Show me where he was charged and convicted.

I'm just telling you what they are scared of. I can see why some say Trump participated in the insurrection. Without him, his rallies, and his speeches, it wouldn't have happened.

Personally, I wouldn't go as far to say he engaged in insurrection, he is too smart to say that directly, but he absolutely fired up his minions to believe his lies and make them passionate about doing something to "stop the steal". And I can understand why if someone believed the government was truly stealing an election, why they'd want to do something about it. I know I would. But I didn't believe the lies.

[89th]

@Horace said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

Personally, I have some interest in the civil unrest that will occur throughout another Trump presidency, and the tacit acceptance of it by the mainstream left. A lot of "virtuous" people would descend into madness, and they'll secretly enjoy the moral leeway their self-righteousness will give them.

It sure would make for fun TV.

[George K]

Yeah, it was 19 months ago, but it's possible that this judge gained a lot of knowledge and experience in that time...

[Jolly]

DEI Judge?

[George K]