Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?
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No, a terrible look.
I haven't looked at the details, and my first impression was "Fog of war." My second impression was that this is exactly the kind of shit that Hamas would pull to lure the IDF into a sense of complacency - fake hostages setting them up.
But, the IDF is admitting it, to their credit. Probably getting ahead of the bad press that Hamas will surely use to their advantage.
Just terrible, all around.
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Gotta understand the venue.
Here lately, as IDF soldiers clear the tunnels, they sometimes find baby or small children dolls obscured in blankets or other concealments. Sometimes, there is a recorded child's voice speaking Hebrew.
But all the time, the doll is rigged as a booby trap or the walls have hidden explosives.
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Again, it’s the behavior of the IDF when the mistakes are made that further proves the moral and ethical difference.
I have to wonder how many times there have been fake surrender attempts?
The Brad
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no words to describe the angst everyone feels. war is hell.
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Again, it’s the behavior of the IDF when the mistakes are made that further proves the moral and ethical difference.
I have to wonder how many times there have been fake surrender attempts?
@LuFins-Dad said in Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?:
I have to wonder how many times there have been fake surrender attempts?
Seems plausible and even likely that this had been set up by Hamas to look like just another trick.
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Perhaps some indication of the thinking, though not an explanation.
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6-10 don’t seem to be anywhere near a causal chain for the killings. This guy was really set on 10.
It is ironic that most of the Palestinian deaths have as a “but for” cause at least one war crime committed by Hamas.
Now we have what might well be the first documented Israeli war crime and the victims are three Israeli hostages.
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Leave your emotions out of it. These are empirical questions.
I don’t believe there were such things as recognized war crimes in the 1860s, but had the post-WWII regime been in place then, certainly much that was done would have qualified.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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Leave your emotions out of it. These are empirical questions.
I don’t believe there were such things as recognized war crimes in the 1860s, but had the post-WWII regime been in place then, certainly much that was done would have qualified.
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Leave your emotions out of it. These are empirical questions.
I don’t believe there were such things as recognized war crimes in the 1860s, but had the post-WWII regime been in place then, certainly much that was done would have qualified.
The Post WW2 construct is mostly fantasy. There are war crimes by the oodles committed every day on the African continent, in the hills of Afghanistan, the edge of the Gobi and pick most any conflict in South America.
I suspect on any given day in Korea, Vietnam, Chechnya, Nicaragua or countless other wars, somebody does something wrong to somebody else. Sometimes, it's on purpose. Sometimes, it's an accident.
It's a war.
Things to know about a war.
- It is a violent, dirty business.
- The ONLY way to win, is to break your opponent's will to fight or to eradicate your opponent as an entity.
- Man is not perfect. Soldiers have emotions, and will do things out of fear and anger. They will also do some very nasty things in the cause of self-preservation. And in revenge.
- Shit happens.
- He who wins, writes the history books.
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The Post WW2 construct is mostly fantasy. There are war crimes by the oodles committed every day on the African continent, in the hills of Afghanistan, the edge of the Gobi and pick most any conflict in South America.
I suspect on any given day in Korea, Vietnam, Chechnya, Nicaragua or countless other wars, somebody does something wrong to somebody else. Sometimes, it's on purpose. Sometimes, it's an accident.
It's a war.
Things to know about a war.
- It is a violent, dirty business.
- The ONLY way to win, is to break your opponent's will to fight or to eradicate your opponent as an entity.
- Man is not perfect. Soldiers have emotions, and will do things out of fear and anger. They will also do some very nasty things in the cause of self-preservation. And in revenge.
- Shit happens.
- He who wins, writes the history books.
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5 doesn’t appear to be true anymore.
@LuFins-Dad said in Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?:
5 doesn’t appear to be true anymore.
I think it will be eventually.
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Yes, watch out, now that the Confederate statues are gone, they'll come after the Union monuments next.
@Copper said in Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?:
Yes, watch out, now that the Confederate statues are gone, they'll come after the Union monuments next.
Almost.
The statue at the Confederate grave sites in Arlington is being removed.
You know, if Union soldiers were still alive today, I don't think that would happen...
