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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #41

    Eh, never mind.

    The difference is only $50 when you add the same SSD/

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @jon-nyc that monitor is pricey! The 27" runs even more, LOL.

      Perhaps I'll have to reconsider my analysis of "break-even."

      @mark what kind of monitor are you using? My needs are pretty simple, and my eyes are pretty shitty.

      markM Offline
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      #42

      @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

      @jon-nyc that monitor is pricey! The 27" runs even more, LOL.

      Perhaps I'll have to reconsider my analysis of "break-even."

      @mark what kind of monitor are you using? My needs are pretty simple, and my eyes are pretty shitty.

      LG 38WK95C-W 38" (Actual size 37.5") WQHD+ 3840 x 1600 HDMI, DisplayPort, USB FreeSync (AMD Adaptive Sync) Built-in Speakers Curved 21:9 UltraWide WQHD+ IPS Curved LED Monitor

      https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824025890?Item=9SIAC4ZA692767

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      • markM mark

        @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

        @jon-nyc that monitor is pricey! The 27" runs even more, LOL.

        Perhaps I'll have to reconsider my analysis of "break-even."

        @mark what kind of monitor are you using? My needs are pretty simple, and my eyes are pretty shitty.

        LG 38WK95C-W 38" (Actual size 37.5") WQHD+ 3840 x 1600 HDMI, DisplayPort, USB FreeSync (AMD Adaptive Sync) Built-in Speakers Curved 21:9 UltraWide WQHD+ IPS Curved LED Monitor

        https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824025890?Item=9SIAC4ZA692767

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #43

        @mark

        I've been in movie theaters with smaller screens. lol

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by
          #44

          Apple M1 MacBook Pro vs. Dell XPS with 11th gen. Intel core i7:

          Link to video

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            Apple M1 MacBook Pro vs. Dell XPS with 11th gen. Intel core i7:

            Link to video

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by George K
            #45

            @axtremus thanks for linking that.

            He has another video comparing the MacBook Air with the MacBook Pro (both M1). Very little difference other than screen brightness and better battery life in the Pro.

            Link to video

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @axtremus thanks for linking that.

              He has another video comparing the MacBook Air with the MacBook Pro (both M1). Very little difference other than screen brightness and better battery life in the Pro.

              Link to video

              AxtremusA Offline
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              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by
              #46

              @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

              He has another video comparing the MacBook Air with the MacBook Pro (both M1). Very little difference other than screen brightness and better battery life in the Pro.

              Yeah, when comparing the Air and the Pro, the 'touch bar' and the added weight of the 'Pro' were deal breakers, so I went with the Air. And yes, after equalizing the options to the bigger SSD and 16GB RAM, I paid the $50 extra for the 8th GPU core.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                He has another video comparing the MacBook Air with the MacBook Pro (both M1). Very little difference other than screen brightness and better battery life in the Pro.

                Yeah, when comparing the Air and the Pro, the 'touch bar' and the added weight of the 'Pro' were deal breakers, so I went with the Air. And yes, after equalizing the options to the bigger SSD and 16GB RAM, I paid the $50 extra for the 8th GPU core.

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by George K
                #47

                @axtremus do you have yours hooked up in a fashion similar to what @jon-nyc did?

                External monitor, stand, etc.

                Or do you just use it as a notebook?

                Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #48

                  @George-K, my MacBook Air is for portability.
                  I have other Macs (mini and Pro) that are “hooked up”.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @axtremus do you have yours hooked up in a fashion similar to what @jon-nyc did?

                    External monitor, stand, etc.

                    Or do you just use it as a notebook?

                    Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                    AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #49

                    @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                    Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                    Indeed. But their are no good alternatives. Once spoiled by the Retina display, it’s hard to use anything else. If I really have to have the Apple CPU and a large display, and I want to balance cost, quality, and time to gratification, then I’d most likely just wait another year for an M1 iMac. :man-shrugging:

                    Without having to read any rumor sites, I think it’s quite safe to count on Apple to release iMacs and 4-port MacBook Pros with its own silicon in 2021. (Less sure about the iMac Pro and the Mac Pro. Apple might wait for another generational jump with even better multi-core/multi-CPU support before putting its own silicon into the Pro desktops/workstations.)

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                    • George KG George K

                      @axtremus do you have yours hooked up in a fashion similar to what @jon-nyc did?

                      External monitor, stand, etc.

                      Or do you just use it as a notebook?

                      Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                      KlausK Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                      Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                      Which specifications are you looking for, specifically?

                      Monitors with 4K resolution aren't expensive. 5K is a bit more unusual, but I don't think the difference between 4K and 5K is significant.

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                      • KlausK Klaus

                        @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                        Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                        Which specifications are you looking for, specifically?

                        Monitors with 4K resolution aren't expensive. 5K is a bit more unusual, but I don't think the difference between 4K and 5K is significant.

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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #51

                        @klaus not looking for so much as looking at.

                        The iMac display is

                        *27-inch (diagonal)
                        *5120‑by‑2880 resolution with support for one billion colors
                        *500 nits brightness
                        *Wide color (P3)
                        *True Tone technology
                        *Configurable with nano-texture glass

                        The cheapest comparable LG is $950.

                        Screen Shot 2020-12-28 at 9.16.55 AM.png

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                          Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                          Which specifications are you looking for, specifically?

                          Monitors with 4K resolution aren't expensive. 5K is a bit more unusual, but I don't think the difference between 4K and 5K is significant.

                          markM Offline
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                          mark
                          wrote on last edited by mark
                          #52

                          @klaus said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                          @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                          Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                          Which specifications are you looking for, specifically?

                          Monitors with 4K resolution aren't expensive. 5K is a bit more unusual, but I don't think the difference between 4K and 5K is significant.

                          5k has its place:

                          from: https://www.techradar.com/best/best-5k-and-8k-monitors

                          So, if you're a video editor working on a 4K project, having a 5K (or even 8K) monitor, means you can view the footage in full resolution, without having the entire screen taken up. You're able to have tools on screen as well, which can help you multitask and edit on the fly - and could prove to dramatically speed up your workflow.

                          That's particularly true when you have limited real estate or don't have the ability to connect multiple monitors to your workstation.

                          When looking for 5K monitors (that's 5120 × 2880 pixels), you'll be met with a choice of regular 16:9 aspect ratio, or ultrawide monitors with 21:9 (or above) aspect ratios. Ultrawide monitors are a great choice if you want a multi-monitor experience, but with just a single screen.

                          Meanwhile, monitors with a regular aspect ratio are generally better for design work as high-DPI modes in Windows and macOS allow for working in scaled resolutions, which lets users zoom in to manipulate images in incredible detail while rendering pin-sharp text and UI elements.

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                          • markM Offline
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                            mark
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #53

                            I have never seen a 5k monitor.

                            If you are watching a movie in 4k, does it not fill the screen?

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                            • markM mark

                              I have never seen a 5k monitor.

                              If you are watching a movie in 4k, does it not fill the screen?

                              George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #54

                              @mark said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                              I have never seen a 5k monitor.

                              https://www.amazon.com/s?k=computer+monitor&i=computers&rh=n%3A1292115011%2Cp_n_size_browse-bin%3A3547807011%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A17751802011&dc&qid=1609172204&rnid=17751799011&ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin_3

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @mark said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                                I have never seen a 5k monitor.

                                https://www.amazon.com/s?k=computer+monitor&i=computers&rh=n%3A1292115011%2Cp_n_size_browse-bin%3A3547807011%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A17751802011&dc&qid=1609172204&rnid=17751799011&ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin_3

                                markM Offline
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                                mark
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #55

                                @george-k Too expensive. Wait a year. lol

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                                  I must say that I'm not a huge fan of my iMac's 5K display.

                                  The difference to 2K resolution, for instance, is barely noticeable, and it makes everything slower.

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                                  • KlausK Klaus

                                    I must say that I'm not a huge fan of my iMac's 5K display.

                                    The difference to 2K resolution, for instance, is barely noticeable, and it makes everything slower.

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #57

                                    @klaus said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                                    The difference to 2K resolution, for instance, is barely noticeable, and it makes everything slower.

                                    That's what I'm thinking. A 4K display would be more than adequate for my needs. I don't edit video, do intense photo editing. I'm not a gamer. How much of a difference, in everyday use, would I really notice?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      Add me to the list.

                                      I have a Surface. Lots of great features, but the problem is how damn crapped up they get over time.

                                      I've installed hardly anything on mine, and still, it gets laggy as hell in weird moments.

                                      Also, I miss the shit out of AppleScript.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        Looking at the options...

                                        Couple of thoughts: Looks like if I spend $400 on a monitor, I can get a Mac Mini for about $500 less than an iMac, similarly configured. Of course, I'm basing this comparison on an Intel-based iMac. Still an i5 processor, similar hard drive size, RAM, etc. If I choose to go the MacBook Air route, the difference between an iMac and the MacBook Air is only about $100.

                                        Second thought: Currently, I'm booting from a 2TB external SSD. It has EVERYTHING on it - photos, media, etc, and is about 65% full.

                                        Do I really need a 2TB drive? Would 1TB be enough?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          Add me to the list.

                                          I have a Surface. Lots of great features, but the problem is how damn crapped up they get over time.

                                          I've installed hardly anything on mine, and still, it gets laggy as hell in weird moments.

                                          Also, I miss the shit out of AppleScript.

                                          89th8 Offline
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #60

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                                          Add me to the list.

                                          I have a Surface. Lots of great features, but the problem is how damn crapped up they get over time.

                                          I've installed hardly anything on mine, and still, it gets laggy as hell in weird moments.

                                          Also, I miss the shit out of AppleScript.

                                          Same here. I have a surface and overall I love it. But it does randomly lag lately...

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