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  • 89th8 Online
    89th8 Online
    89th
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    My wife goes to one on occasion. She said I should go because I often have a stiff neck. After I tell her she is the pain in my neck (kidding), I said I'd look into it.

    My problem is the internet. I've seen many reddit threads and other places talk about how chiropractors are a "scam" or you risk getting injured, etc. That was never on my radar, but......what do the esteemed folks at TNCR think?

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by Copper
      #2

      I have never been to a chiropractor.

      For that sort of thing I usually try to cure myself.

      Ice, Heat
      Rest, exercise
      Whiskey
      Advil
      Patience

      I have a fool for a patient.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        #3

        Mixed. I had a genuine injury as a kid playing football where my neck basically got stuck in a position where my head was tilted to one side. I couldn’t move it without extreme pain.

        Went to the chiropractor , he felt around my neck with his fingers, suddenly popped something into place, and I was totally fine.

        Years later I went when a had hurt my neck, turns out I had a herniated disc. He could do nothing but it didn’t stop him from trying.

        Net net I think there’s a small set of issues where they can help, and a lot more where they can’t, and they don’t necessarily know or care about the difference.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #4

          Most larger evaluations agree with the following:"Chiropracters don't (usually) hurt. Most people feel better after being "adjusted." However, long-term relief is difficult to assess because many of these conditions get better on their own."

          I saw one for my herniated lumbar disc. Felt great when I left the office. Two days later, I was hurting again.

          If they claim they can take care of cancer or heart disease, run away - far away.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            In your case I would think of it as going to a specialized masseuse. Give it a try if it makes your wife happy.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • 89th8 Online
              89th8 Online
              89th
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Good information. I'd imagine if I was better at stretching, working out, drinking water, not snacking late at night, sleeping more, and not going in/out of kids rooms 100x at night, I probably wouldn't feel as sore.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                In your case I would think of it as going to a specialized masseuse. Give it a try if it makes your wife happy.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #7

                @jon-nyc said in Thoughts on chiropractors:

                I would think of it as going to a specialized masseuse

                Be sure to ask for a happy...

                Never mind.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  #8

                  They work. Selectively.

                  When your back hurts so bad you have to crawl to the bathroom, even temporary relief is quite acceptable.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #9

                    Never been to one.

                    Knew a few though who boarded their horses where I kept mine. They would sometimes try to tell the vets how to do their jobs. It was amusing especially when one insisted on providing unsolicited holistic advice to a vet who had a large animal practice in South Africa before immigrating here in the mid 1980’s. The chiro never tried that again.

                    Some of my friends though were regular chiro patients. At least until they finally realised that Chiros only treat symptoms but not the root cause of the problem itself.

                    I can think of one instance when a friend of mine should have gone to a lawyer after a chiro failed to insist, let alone even suggest, that he go to the ER. He was septic with a bouncing high fever that had lasted close to a week. What did the chiro prescribed? Vacuum cupping therapy on the back! Surprised he didn’t bleed him as well. Poor guy ended up in an ICU for a week then three weeks in the medicine ward. Forced him to take early retirement and has never been in anything resembling good health ever since.

                    Should the need arise, I’ll go to a sports medicine physiotherapist first before a “Chiro-quackpractor” any day.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      #10

                      Like Jon and George, I’ve had mixed results. I’ve been quite crooked and got fixed in one visit. If it’s a matter of alignment or possibly nerves impingement they can help. If it’s muscular they can make you feel briefly better but not long term.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        If their office offers acupuncture then I would be leery. If they mention holistic? Run away.

                        The Brad

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
                          RenaudaR Offline
                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                          #12

                          @LuFins-Dad

                          When I was working and someone in a meeting said “We should or want to take a holistic approach to this….” As far I was concerned the meeting was over.

                          There were certain individuals who would always introduce the holistic approach banality. If I knew they would be present I would always arrange to have my assistant to enter the meeting at about the twenty minute mark with an “urgent phone call” message to pull me out of the meeting. In that way they could have an out of the box holistic approach session to their hearts’ desire.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            @LuFins-Dad

                            When I was working and someone in a meeting said “We should or want to take a holistic approach to this….” As far I was concerned the meeting was over.

                            There were certain individuals who would always introduce the holistic approach banality. If I knew they would be present I would always arrange to have my assistant to enter the meeting at about the twenty minute mark with an “urgent phone call” message to pull me out of the meeting. In that way they could have an out of the box holistic approach session to their hearts’ desire.

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Renauda said in Thoughts on chiropractors:

                            If I knew they would be present I would always arrange to have my assistant to enter the meeting at about the twenty minute mark with an “urgent phone call” message to pull me out of the meeting

                            "Page me in 15 minutes."

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Renauda said in Thoughts on chiropractors:

                              If I knew they would be present I would always arrange to have my assistant to enter the meeting at about the twenty minute mark with an “urgent phone call” message to pull me out of the meeting

                              "Page me in 15 minutes."

                              RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @George-K

                              👍

                              Elbows up!

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                I'm not feeling much synergy here. I think we might need to do a deep dive in order to move the needle.

                                I was only joking

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                                • CopperC Offline
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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Roger that, let's take it to the next level.

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                                    Never been to one.

                                    Knew a few though who boarded their horses where I kept mine. They would sometimes try to tell the vets how to do their jobs. It was amusing especially when one insisted on providing unsolicited holistic advice to a vet who had a large animal practice in South Africa before immigrating here in the mid 1980’s. The chiro never tried that again.

                                    Some of my friends though were regular chiro patients. At least until they finally realised that Chiros only treat symptoms but not the root cause of the problem itself.

                                    I can think of one instance when a friend of mine should have gone to a lawyer after a chiro failed to insist, let alone even suggest, that he go to the ER. He was septic with a bouncing high fever that had lasted close to a week. What did the chiro prescribed? Vacuum cupping therapy on the back! Surprised he didn’t bleed him as well. Poor guy ended up in an ICU for a week then three weeks in the medicine ward. Forced him to take early retirement and has never been in anything resembling good health ever since.

                                    Should the need arise, I’ll go to a sports medicine physiotherapist first before a “Chiro-quackpractor” any day.

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @Renauda said in Thoughts on chiropractors:

                                    Knew a few though who boarded their horses where I kept mine. They would sometimes try to tell the vets how to do their jobs. It was amusing especially when one insisted on providing unsolicited holistic advice to a vet who had a large animal practice in South Africa before immigrating here in the mid 1980’s. The chiro never tried that again.

                                    Yeah, when Simon went lame (it was his hocks) several people recommended an equine chiro.

                                    I thought some injections might be more useful and longer-lasting than a spinal adjustment - on a HORSE.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                    RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
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                                      kluurs
                                      wrote on last edited by kluurs
                                      #18

                                      My experience was not a good one. Part of the problem is that some chiropractors want to have you visit them once a week for the rest of your life. I filled out a medical history for the chiro and noted I had an inguinal hernia repair. As part of his assessment, the chiropractor put a good portion of his bulk into my lower abdomen. He then gave a "Eureka" shout indicating that he was demonstrating a deficiency in my conditioning. I then replied, "No, you just tore open my hernia repair." My brother had a friend who was turned into a paraplegic by a chiropractor.

                                      The other thing that bugged me about the chiropractors I've seen (3) is that they love x-rays - and one can be assured that the equipment they use is probably from the 1940s, likely equivalent to being within the 10 mile perimeter of the Trinity blast site in New Mexico.

                                      Finally, I once had a roommate who went to chiropractic school. He was a big advocate for chiropractic methods. He finished school, and I lost sight of him. I got in touch with him a couple of years ago - just to catch up on what he was doing. He's not doing chiropractic. He told me that he wanted to do research on the effectiveness of chiropractic medicine - but he found that no one in the field was interested. In fact, he was discouraged from doing it. He left the field.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @Renauda said in Thoughts on chiropractors:

                                        Knew a few though who boarded their horses where I kept mine. They would sometimes try to tell the vets how to do their jobs. It was amusing especially when one insisted on providing unsolicited holistic advice to a vet who had a large animal practice in South Africa before immigrating here in the mid 1980’s. The chiro never tried that again.

                                        Yeah, when Simon went lame (it was his hocks) several people recommended an equine chiro.

                                        I thought some injections might be more useful and longer-lasting than a spinal adjustment - on a HORSE.

                                        RenaudaR Offline
                                        RenaudaR Offline
                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @George-K

                                        The stable owner/trainer where I boarded, always recommended calling the farrier first to have a look at a lame animal. In 75% of the cases the farrier could fix the problem through hoof trimming or corrective shoeing for a fraction of the cost of a vet bill. She always maintained the farrier, an old cowboy named Pat, had forgotten more about equine lameness and horse’s feet, than any local vet could ever hope to know. I believe she was right.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @George-K

                                          The stable owner/trainer where I boarded, always recommended calling the farrier first to have a look at a lame animal. In 75% of the cases the farrier could fix the problem through hoof trimming or corrective shoeing for a fraction of the cost of a vet bill. She always maintained the farrier, an old cowboy named Pat, had forgotten more about equine lameness and horse’s feet, than any local vet could ever hope to know. I believe she was right.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @Renauda indeed.

                                          When SImon went lame, after a couple of vet visits, etc., the farrier suggested we let him go barefoot. The lack of shoe traction made it less likely for him to put stress on the hocks when going around a corner.

                                          It helped.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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