Murder or Suicide?

[George K]

@Klaus said in Murder or Suicide?:

The pistol would have fallen out of her hand

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10208326/

The location of the gun following suicidal gunshot wound was studied by reviewing 574 such deaths in which the scene was investigated by a medical examiner investigator and the body was examined at the Bexar County Medical Examiner's Office in San Antonio, Texas. The position of the gun could not be established in 76 cases. In the remaining 498 cases, the gun remained in the deceased's hand in 24% of the cases.

[Horace]

@George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

@Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

How did you get Ax's password?

Same one he uses at onlyfans and Wapo.

[LuFins Dad]

@Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

@George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

@Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

How did you get Ax's password?

Same one he uses at onlyfans and Wapo.

The WaPo account is for masturbation, what’s the onlyfans account for?

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in Murder or Suicide?:

@Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

@George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

@Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

How did you get Ax's password?

Same one he uses at onlyfans and Wapo.

The WaPo account is for masturbation, what’s the onlyfans account for?

lol

[Jolly]

Murder.

She's left-handed. Spatter field looks incorrect for a close range shot. The light is not plugged in, indicating she was not writing the suicide note. Also, the paper is turned for a right-handed person. The pen is turned for a lefty.

Lastly, women do not tend to shoot themselves and they definitely tend not to shoot themselves in the head.

[George K]

@Jolly said in Murder or Suicide?:

She's left-handed.

Why do you say that?

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

@Jolly said in Murder or Suicide?:

She's left-handed.

Why do you say that?

Look at the pen

[LuFins Dad]

Though that likely means the murderer is left handed.

[LuFins Dad]

Which fits with what my grandmother taught me about left handed people.

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in Murder or Suicide?:

Look at the pen

A left-handed person would not put the pen down that way - tip pointing to the right. If you're right-handed, lay a pen down without it feeling awkward. Tip will point to your right.

[Horace]

Is it too soon to talk about how attractive she is?

[Aqua Letifer]

@George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Murder or Suicide?:

Look at the pen

A left-handed person would not put the pen down that way - tip pointing to the right. If you're right-handed, lay a pen down without it feeling awkward. Tip will point to your right.

Nah. She is probably a leftie because of the placement of the pen and the ashtray, but lefties learn to write very differently from right-handed people. Some are hookers, some are draggers. The pen is pretty close to how mine looks when I put it down.

[George K]

If she's writing with her right hand, the ashtray would be to the left (voice of experience here). Note the cigarette is in her left hand.

As to putting the pen down, I'm a rightie.

Link to video

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

If she's writing with her right hand, the ashtray would be to the left (voice of experience here). Note the cigarette is in her left hand.

As to putting the pen down, I'm a rightie.

Link to video

I’ll agree with you about how a rightie puts their pen down, but who knows what happens with lefties? Their brains are wired differently. It’s why they kill so many people.

[bachophile]

i think she is still alive. how else is she smoking a cigarette?

also the lamp isnt plugged in, dead people cant pull the plug on a lamp but live people can, when the bright light bothers you.

clever arent I? a regular hercule poirot

[Aqua Letifer]

[Aqua Letifer]

That's for hookers, which I am not, but a lot of lefties write that way.

[George K]

https://www.scoopwhoop.com/world/is-this-a-murder-or-suicide-puzzle/

***evidence for murder***

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While a lot of people think that it’s a suicide, we strongly believe otherwise. This looks like a clear case of murder. Here are our reasons:

1. The person is clearly left-handed. The lamp is placed to the right side which is again a common tendency for a left-handed person. She is even holding a half burnt cigarette in her left hand so she obviously didn’t shoot herself.

2. Basic human behaviour suggests that we tend to finish all our work before committing suicide. So she would have finished her cigarette first before having to kill herself.

3. She’s holding the gun the opposite direction where the blood splatter is at. The point of impact and the blood splatter speak otherwise.

4. When you commit suicide by gun your body releases all tension, meaning the gun would not be in their hand.

5. The light is unplugged, and you can see (what seems like) the night sky in the window. How could the person write a suicide note in the dark?
   

***evidence for suicide***

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But then there’s an explanation for this being a case of suicide as well.

1. The person may very well be right-handed. Look at the position of the pen on the table. It’s positioned in a way that suggests that she was using her right hand to write.

2. There’s a distinct blood trail in the image. If you lay your head down in that position, you will notice your muscles make a nice pathway for blood to pool at your collar bone, like in the picture. Meaning the wound would have to be on the right temple.

3. The ashtray and coke can on the left-hand side are because he uses his non-dominant hand for recreation.
   

[Horace]

It may not even be a real picture. What if it's a drawing? Then there is no "truth", beyond the intent of the artist. I don't feel comfortable making any judgments until I know whether it's a drawing, or a real picture. Also I would like to know what wise women of color think, to get an always valuable second opinion from mystical truth seeking methods.