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Murder or Suicide?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    This came across my FB feed a few days ago.

    Is this murder or suicide? Why?

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • KlausK Offline
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      Klaus
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      #2

      Murder.

      The pistol would have fallen out of her hand, and the position of the chair doesn't make sense.

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      • KlausK Klaus

        Murder.

        The pistol would have fallen out of her hand, and the position of the chair doesn't make sense.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #3

        @Klaus said in Murder or Suicide?:

        Murder.

        The other thing - if she had shot herself, she would have to be sitting facing AWAY from the shelf, given the pistol in her right hand.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

          Education is extremely important.

          George KG 1 Reply Last reply
          • HoraceH Horace

            Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #5

            @Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

            Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

            How did you get Ax's password?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

            HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
            • KlausK Klaus

              Murder.

              The pistol would have fallen out of her hand, and the position of the chair doesn't make sense.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @Klaus said in Murder or Suicide?:

              The pistol would have fallen out of her hand

              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10208326/

              The location of the gun following suicidal gunshot wound was studied by reviewing 574 such deaths in which the scene was investigated by a medical examiner investigator and the body was examined at the Bexar County Medical Examiner's Office in San Antonio, Texas. The position of the gun could not be established in 76 cases. In the remaining 498 cases, the gun remained in the deceased's hand in 24% of the cases.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

                Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

                How did you get Ax's password?

                HoraceH Offline
                HoraceH Offline
                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

                @Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

                Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

                How did you get Ax's password?

                Same one he uses at onlyfans and Wapo.

                Education is extremely important.

                LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                • HoraceH Horace

                  @George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

                  @Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

                  Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

                  How did you get Ax's password?

                  Same one he uses at onlyfans and Wapo.

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #8

                  @Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

                  @George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

                  @Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

                  Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

                  How did you get Ax's password?

                  Same one he uses at onlyfans and Wapo.

                  The WaPo account is for masturbation, what’s the onlyfans account for?

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

                    @George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

                    @Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

                    Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

                    How did you get Ax's password?

                    Same one he uses at onlyfans and Wapo.

                    The WaPo account is for masturbation, what’s the onlyfans account for?

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Murder or Suicide?:

                    @Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

                    @George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

                    @Horace said in Murder or Suicide?:

                    Looks like a suicide. Probably guilty over an historical responsibility for the oppression of minorities. The cigarettes indicate a more long term self destructive tendency. Also gun lovers tend to be right wing wackos, so we have to assume there are mental health issues. Trump supporters amirite?

                    How did you get Ax's password?

                    Same one he uses at onlyfans and Wapo.

                    The WaPo account is for masturbation, what’s the onlyfans account for?

                    lol

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #10

                      Murder.

                      She's left-handed. Spatter field looks incorrect for a close range shot. The light is not plugged in, indicating she was not writing the suicide note. Also, the paper is turned for a right-handed person. The pen is turned for a lefty.

                      Lastly, women do not tend to shoot themselves and they definitely tend not to shoot themselves in the head.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Murder.

                        She's left-handed. Spatter field looks incorrect for a close range shot. The light is not plugged in, indicating she was not writing the suicide note. Also, the paper is turned for a right-handed person. The pen is turned for a lefty.

                        Lastly, women do not tend to shoot themselves and they definitely tend not to shoot themselves in the head.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        @Jolly said in Murder or Suicide?:

                        She's left-handed.

                        Why do you say that?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Jolly said in Murder or Suicide?:

                          She's left-handed.

                          Why do you say that?

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

                          @Jolly said in Murder or Suicide?:

                          She's left-handed.

                          Why do you say that?

                          Look at the pen

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            Though that likely means the murderer is left handed.

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              Which fits with what my grandmother taught me about left handed people.

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

                                @Jolly said in Murder or Suicide?:

                                She's left-handed.

                                Why do you say that?

                                Look at the pen

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Murder or Suicide?:

                                Look at the pen

                                A left-handed person would not put the pen down that way - tip pointing to the right. If you're right-handed, lay a pen down without it feeling awkward. Tip will point to your right.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • HoraceH Offline
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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Is it too soon to talk about how attractive she is?

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Murder or Suicide?:

                                    Look at the pen

                                    A left-handed person would not put the pen down that way - tip pointing to the right. If you're right-handed, lay a pen down without it feeling awkward. Tip will point to your right.

                                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    @George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Murder or Suicide?:

                                    Look at the pen

                                    A left-handed person would not put the pen down that way - tip pointing to the right. If you're right-handed, lay a pen down without it feeling awkward. Tip will point to your right.

                                    Nah. She is probably a leftie because of the placement of the pen and the ashtray, but lefties learn to write very differently from right-handed people. Some are hookers, some are draggers. The pen is pretty close to how mine looks when I put it down.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      If she's writing with her right hand, the ashtray would be to the left (voice of experience here). Note the cigarette is in her left hand.

                                      As to putting the pen down, I'm a rightie.

                                      Link to video

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        If she's writing with her right hand, the ashtray would be to the left (voice of experience here). Note the cigarette is in her left hand.

                                        As to putting the pen down, I'm a rightie.

                                        Link to video

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        @George-K said in Murder or Suicide?:

                                        If she's writing with her right hand, the ashtray would be to the left (voice of experience here). Note the cigarette is in her left hand.

                                        As to putting the pen down, I'm a rightie.

                                        Link to video

                                        I’ll agree with you about how a rightie puts their pen down, but who knows what happens with lefties? Their brains are wired differently. It’s why they kill so many people.

                                        The Brad

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                                          i think she is still alive. how else is she smoking a cigarette?

                                          also the lamp isnt plugged in, dead people cant pull the plug on a lamp but live people can, when the bright light bothers you.

                                          clever arent I? a regular hercule poirot

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