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The Curious Case of Claudine Gay

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  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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    Aqua Letifer
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    #83

    Solid.

    Please love yourself.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #84

      Swain vs Gay

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
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        #85

        There's a documentary on YouTube about the allegations against Fryer. They are total garbage.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          There's a documentary on YouTube about the allegations against Fryer. They are total garbage.

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          Copper
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          #86

          @Horace said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

          Fryer

          Personal life

          Fryer is married to Franziska Michor, a professor of biology at Harvard. They met in 2006, as members of the Harvard Society of Fellows. He "...courted her by betting a dinner date on whether he could find evidence that smoking reduces cancer..."[35] He has performed stand-up comedy at The Elbow Room, in West Hartford, Connecticut, inside of their basement comedy club "Stand-Up Underground."

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_G._Fryer_Jr.

          He courted her by betting a dinner date on whether he could find evidence that smoking reduces cancer; to her dismay, he sent her a report from the tobacco lobby.

          https://www.ft.com/content/89b97964-b88a-11e5-b151-8e15c9a029fb

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #87

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              #88

              It's time for Harvard to take the lead.

              Replace her with an elder white male.

              Let's restore order to our world.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #89

                What would be her legal grounds? It's obvious she plagiarized and broke Harvard's code.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  What would be her legal grounds? It's obvious she plagiarized and broke Harvard's code.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @Jolly said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                  What would be her legal grounds? It's obvious she plagiarized and broke Harvard's code.

                  I would think it's going to be a heavy (legal) lift to fire her. AFAIK, she broke no professional rules of conduct. Though weasel-ey, her testimony before Congress was not, IMO, reason for dismissal.

                  As far as the plagiarism allegations, she can, and probably will, claim that Harvard did its due diligence in appointing her. The fact that it's just now coming to light is Harvard's fault, not hers.

                  "Yeah, officer, you claim I ran that red light about 5 years ago, but you didn't catch me. So, I shouldn't get a ticket NOW."

                  Smart thing would be for Harvard to just pay her off and be done with it. SHe's lost a lot of credibility, and has almost become, for now, a household name. In the worst way, of course.

                  Gonna need some popcorn, to be sure.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #91

                    But for academe, isn't plagiarism akin to lying on a job application?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      But for academe, isn't plagiarism akin to lying on a job application?

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                      George K
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                      @Jolly said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                      But for academe, isn't plagiarism akin to lying on a job application?

                      Of course it is. But she'll claim that Harvard should have caught it, and now it's on them.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Rainman
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                        #93

                        She'll be gone when she gets her $$$ and makes it seem like she's leaving for the good of the university. Needs some more time BSing the students and faculty. Just my guess. I'm betting a quarter it's 3 months or less. A few more alumni pull the big dollars, and it's one month.

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
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                          #94

                          The only Christmas present I want this year, is Claudine Gay in prison. So I can finally feel safe again.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
                            #95

                            Show us on this doll where she touched you, Horace…

                            The Brad

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #96

                              Lol

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • RainmanR Rainman

                                She'll be gone when she gets her $$$ and makes it seem like she's leaving for the good of the university. Needs some more time BSing the students and faculty. Just my guess. I'm betting a quarter it's 3 months or less. A few more alumni pull the big dollars, and it's one month.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #97

                                @Rainman said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                                She'll be gone when she gets her $$$ and makes it seem like she's leaving for the good of the university. Needs some more time BSing the students and faculty. Just my guess. I'm betting a quarter it's 3 months or less. A few more alumni pull the big dollars, and it's one month.

                                I think it’s the opposite. When boards want a problem to go away, they’ll throw money at it. Especially with a gazillion dollar endowment.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  Jolly
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                                  Tax the endowment?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Copper
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                                    #99

                                    Make an example, lock her up.

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                                    • CopperC Copper

                                      Make an example, lock her up.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #100

                                      @Copper said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                                      Make an example, lock her up.

                                      Finally, the voice of compassion, for those of us who don't feel safe.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #101

                                        Read the thread.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          George K
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                                          #102

                                          She's published, what, 12 articles?

                                          A pretty high plagiarism/publication ratio, no?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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