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The Curious Case of Claudine Gay

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 22 Dec 2023, 23:26 last edited by
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    POTD

    You were warned.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 22 Dec 2023, 23:55 last edited by
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      Solid.

      Please love yourself.

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        George K
        wrote on 23 Dec 2023, 12:27 last edited by
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        Swain vs Gay

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Horace
          wrote on 23 Dec 2023, 13:28 last edited by
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          There's a documentary on YouTube about the allegations against Fryer. They are total garbage.

          Education is extremely important.

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            23 Dec 2023, 13:28

            There's a documentary on YouTube about the allegations against Fryer. They are total garbage.

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            Copper
            wrote on 23 Dec 2023, 15:21 last edited by
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            @Horace said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

            Fryer

            Personal life

            Fryer is married to Franziska Michor, a professor of biology at Harvard. They met in 2006, as members of the Harvard Society of Fellows. He "...courted her by betting a dinner date on whether he could find evidence that smoking reduces cancer..."[35] He has performed stand-up comedy at The Elbow Room, in West Hartford, Connecticut, inside of their basement comedy club "Stand-Up Underground."

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_G._Fryer_Jr.

            He courted her by betting a dinner date on whether he could find evidence that smoking reduces cancer; to her dismay, he sent her a report from the tobacco lobby.

            https://www.ft.com/content/89b97964-b88a-11e5-b151-8e15c9a029fb

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              George K
              wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 00:41 last edited by
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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Copper
                wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 00:51 last edited by
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                It's time for Harvard to take the lead.

                Replace her with an elder white male.

                Let's restore order to our world.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 13:34 last edited by
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                  What would be her legal grounds? It's obvious she plagiarized and broke Harvard's code.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    25 Dec 2023, 13:34

                    What would be her legal grounds? It's obvious she plagiarized and broke Harvard's code.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 13:49 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                    What would be her legal grounds? It's obvious she plagiarized and broke Harvard's code.

                    I would think it's going to be a heavy (legal) lift to fire her. AFAIK, she broke no professional rules of conduct. Though weasel-ey, her testimony before Congress was not, IMO, reason for dismissal.

                    As far as the plagiarism allegations, she can, and probably will, claim that Harvard did its due diligence in appointing her. The fact that it's just now coming to light is Harvard's fault, not hers.

                    "Yeah, officer, you claim I ran that red light about 5 years ago, but you didn't catch me. So, I shouldn't get a ticket NOW."

                    Smart thing would be for Harvard to just pay her off and be done with it. SHe's lost a lot of credibility, and has almost become, for now, a household name. In the worst way, of course.

                    Gonna need some popcorn, to be sure.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 14:41 last edited by
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                      But for academe, isn't plagiarism akin to lying on a job application?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        25 Dec 2023, 14:41

                        But for academe, isn't plagiarism akin to lying on a job application?

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                        George K
                        wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 14:41 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                        But for academe, isn't plagiarism akin to lying on a job application?

                        Of course it is. But she'll claim that Harvard should have caught it, and now it's on them.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Rainman
                          wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 16:37 last edited by
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                          She'll be gone when she gets her $$$ and makes it seem like she's leaving for the good of the university. Needs some more time BSing the students and faculty. Just my guess. I'm betting a quarter it's 3 months or less. A few more alumni pull the big dollars, and it's one month.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 16:48 last edited by
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                            The only Christmas present I want this year, is Claudine Gay in prison. So I can finally feel safe again.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 16:51 last edited by LuFins Dad
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                              Show us on this doll where she touched you, Horace…

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 26 Dec 2023, 14:38 last edited by
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                                Lol

                                You were warned.

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                                  25 Dec 2023, 16:37

                                  She'll be gone when she gets her $$$ and makes it seem like she's leaving for the good of the university. Needs some more time BSing the students and faculty. Just my guess. I'm betting a quarter it's 3 months or less. A few more alumni pull the big dollars, and it's one month.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 26 Dec 2023, 14:39 last edited by
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                                  @Rainman said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                                  She'll be gone when she gets her $$$ and makes it seem like she's leaving for the good of the university. Needs some more time BSing the students and faculty. Just my guess. I'm betting a quarter it's 3 months or less. A few more alumni pull the big dollars, and it's one month.

                                  I think it’s the opposite. When boards want a problem to go away, they’ll throw money at it. Especially with a gazillion dollar endowment.

                                  You were warned.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 26 Dec 2023, 14:57 last edited by
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                                    Tax the endowment?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 26 Dec 2023, 15:35 last edited by
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                                      Make an example, lock her up.

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                                        26 Dec 2023, 15:35

                                        Make an example, lock her up.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 26 Dec 2023, 16:27 last edited by
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                                        @Copper said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                                        Make an example, lock her up.

                                        Finally, the voice of compassion, for those of us who don't feel safe.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 2 Jan 2024, 01:50 last edited by
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                                          Read the thread.

                                          You were warned.

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