The Curious Case of Claudine Gay
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wrote on 22 Dec 2023, 23:18 last edited by xenon
What I imagine her resignation will look like:
In all the decisions I have made in my public life, I have always tried to do what was best for the
NationHarvard. Throughout the long and difficult period ofWatergateHamasgate, I have felt it was my duty to persevere, to make every possible effort to complete the term of office to which youelectedhired me.In the past few days, however, it has become evident to me that I no longer have a strong enough political base in the
CongressHarvard Corporation to justify continuing that effort. As long as there was such a base, I felt strongly that it was necessary to see theconstitutionaleducational process through to its conclusion, that to do otherwise would be unfaithful to the spirit of that deliberately difficult process and a dangerously destabilizing precedent for the future.But with the disappearance of that base, I now believe that the
constitutionaleducational purpose has been served, and there is no longer a need for the process to be prolonged. -
wrote on 22 Dec 2023, 23:26 last edited by
POTD
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wrote on 22 Dec 2023, 23:55 last edited by
Solid.
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wrote on 23 Dec 2023, 12:27 last edited by
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wrote on 23 Dec 2023, 13:28 last edited by
There's a documentary on YouTube about the allegations against Fryer. They are total garbage.
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There's a documentary on YouTube about the allegations against Fryer. They are total garbage.
wrote on 23 Dec 2023, 15:21 last edited by@Horace said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:
Fryer
Personal life
Fryer is married to Franziska Michor, a professor of biology at Harvard. They met in 2006, as members of the Harvard Society of Fellows. He "...courted her by betting a dinner date on whether he could find evidence that smoking reduces cancer..."[35] He has performed stand-up comedy at The Elbow Room, in West Hartford, Connecticut, inside of their basement comedy club "Stand-Up Underground."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_G._Fryer_Jr.
He courted her by betting a dinner date on whether he could find evidence that smoking reduces cancer; to her dismay, he sent her a report from the tobacco lobby.
https://www.ft.com/content/89b97964-b88a-11e5-b151-8e15c9a029fb
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wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 00:41 last edited by
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wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 00:51 last edited by
It's time for Harvard to take the lead.
Replace her with an elder white male.
Let's restore order to our world.
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wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 13:34 last edited by
What would be her legal grounds? It's obvious she plagiarized and broke Harvard's code.
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wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 13:49 last edited by
@Jolly said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:
What would be her legal grounds? It's obvious she plagiarized and broke Harvard's code.
I would think it's going to be a heavy (legal) lift to fire her. AFAIK, she broke no professional rules of conduct. Though weasel-ey, her testimony before Congress was not, IMO, reason for dismissal.
As far as the plagiarism allegations, she can, and probably will, claim that Harvard did its due diligence in appointing her. The fact that it's just now coming to light is Harvard's fault, not hers.
"Yeah, officer, you claim I ran that red light about 5 years ago, but you didn't catch me. So, I shouldn't get a ticket NOW."
Smart thing would be for Harvard to just pay her off and be done with it. SHe's lost a lot of credibility, and has almost become, for now, a household name. In the worst way, of course.
Gonna need some popcorn, to be sure.
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wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 14:41 last edited by
But for academe, isn't plagiarism akin to lying on a job application?
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wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 14:41 last edited by
@Jolly said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:
But for academe, isn't plagiarism akin to lying on a job application?
Of course it is. But she'll claim that Harvard should have caught it, and now it's on them.
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wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 16:37 last edited by
She'll be gone when she gets her $$$ and makes it seem like she's leaving for the good of the university. Needs some more time BSing the students and faculty. Just my guess. I'm betting a quarter it's 3 months or less. A few more alumni pull the big dollars, and it's one month.
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wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 16:48 last edited by
The only Christmas present I want this year, is Claudine Gay in prison. So I can finally feel safe again.
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wrote on 25 Dec 2023, 16:51 last edited by LuFins Dad
Show us on this doll where she touched you, Horace…
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wrote on 26 Dec 2023, 14:38 last edited by
Lol
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She'll be gone when she gets her $$$ and makes it seem like she's leaving for the good of the university. Needs some more time BSing the students and faculty. Just my guess. I'm betting a quarter it's 3 months or less. A few more alumni pull the big dollars, and it's one month.
wrote on 26 Dec 2023, 14:39 last edited by@Rainman said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:
She'll be gone when she gets her $$$ and makes it seem like she's leaving for the good of the university. Needs some more time BSing the students and faculty. Just my guess. I'm betting a quarter it's 3 months or less. A few more alumni pull the big dollars, and it's one month.
I think it’s the opposite. When boards want a problem to go away, they’ll throw money at it. Especially with a gazillion dollar endowment.
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wrote on 26 Dec 2023, 14:57 last edited by
Tax the endowment?
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wrote on 26 Dec 2023, 15:35 last edited by
Make an example, lock her up.
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wrote on 26 Dec 2023, 16:27 last edited by
@Copper said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:
Make an example, lock her up.
Finally, the voice of compassion, for those of us who don't feel safe.