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The Curious Case of Claudine Gay

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 11:41 last edited by
    #129

    By the way, the Harvard Corporation statement at least mentions her transgressions. Not with specifics but it at least mentions that there were some.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      George K
      wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 11:52 last edited by
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      And though she has resigned as president, she still keeps her job at Harvard as a (cough) "scholar."

      The salary is about $900K, which is more than I made in 7 months.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 11:54 last edited by
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        And the Associated (with Democrats) Press finds conservatives pouncing. Or is is seizing?

        https://apnews.com/article/harvard-president-plagiarism-claudine-gay-3b048da1f2ee17b5edec3680b5828e8f

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          3 Jan 2024, 11:54

          And the Associated (with Democrats) Press finds conservatives pouncing. Or is is seizing?

          https://apnews.com/article/harvard-president-plagiarism-claudine-gay-3b048da1f2ee17b5edec3680b5828e8f

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          Copper
          wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 12:32 last edited by
          #132

          @George-K said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

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          I thought that was from the Bee when I read it.

          But no!

          It is real AP.

          https://apnews.com/article/harvard-president-plagiarism-claudine-gay-3b048da1f2ee17b5edec3680b5828e8f

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 12:33 last edited by
            #133

            The interns aren’t taking it very well.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 12:35 last edited by
              #134

              Has somebody ran that AP article past a plagiarism detection program?

              The Brad

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                Jolly
                wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 12:58 last edited by
                #135

                Gee, don't you imagine the Columbia President is counting her blessings about a scheduling conflict right now. That was supposed to be the fourth witness at the hearing.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  3 Jan 2024, 12:35

                  Has somebody ran that AP article past a plagiarism detection program?

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                  George K
                  wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 13:24 last edited by
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                  Has somebody ran that AP article past a plagiarism detection program?

                  Makes you wonder how accurate these things are.

                  https://plagiarismdetector.net

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    3 Jan 2024, 03:26

                    Take a bow, Mr Ackman.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 14:08 last edited by
                    #137

                    @jon-nyc said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                    Take a bow, Mr Ackman.

                    Ackman sort of explains:

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      3 Jan 2024, 11:54

                      And the Associated (with Democrats) Press finds conservatives pouncing. Or is is seizing?

                      https://apnews.com/article/harvard-president-plagiarism-claudine-gay-3b048da1f2ee17b5edec3680b5828e8f

                      Screenshot 2024-01-03 at 5.53.34 AM.png

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 14:27 last edited by
                      #138

                      @George-K said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                      And the Associated (with Democrats) Press finds conservatives pouncing. Or is is seizing?

                      https://apnews.com/article/harvard-president-plagiarism-claudine-gay-3b048da1f2ee17b5edec3680b5828e8f

                      Screenshot 2024-01-03 at 5.53.34 AM.png

                      On X, formerly Twitter, he wrote “SCALPED,” as if Gay was a trophy of violence, invoking a gruesome practice taken up by white colonists who sought to eradicate Native Americans.

                      Uhm, what?

                      The Brad

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 14:33 last edited by
                        #139

                        Ackman’s tweet is terrifying.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • M Mik
                          3 Jan 2024, 14:33

                          Ackman’s tweet is terrifying.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 15:14 last edited by
                          #140

                          @Mik said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                          Ackman’s tweet is terrifying.

                          Yes, it is.

                          Wonder if he would take Gay's old job?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            89th
                            wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 15:50 last edited by
                            #141

                            What I learned, however, was that DEI was not about diversity in its purest form, but rather DEI was a political advocacy movement on behalf of certain groups that are deemed oppressed under DEI’s own methodology.

                            Under DEI, one’s degree of oppression is determined based upon where one resides on a so-called intersectional pyramid of oppression where whites, Jews, and Asians are deemed oppressors, and a subset of people of color, LGBTQ people, and/or women are deemed to be oppressed. Under this ideology which is the philosophical underpinning of DEI as advanced by Ibram X. Kendi and others, one is either an anti-racist or a racist. There is no such thing as being “not racist.”

                            Well summarized.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 15:52 last edited by
                              #142

                              I might have mentioned before, but when I was doing graduate work at Syracuse University in 2016, I was surprised that "safe spaces" were literally physical locations. Signs in a coffee shop would declare the space "safe space for all" or something... until then I thought it was just a joke/phrase! Of course, I was tempted to test if the space was really safe for "all" or if it was really just a place to be safe from opinions that might hurt your feelings.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 16:15 last edited by
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                                The question that Ackman hints at, in a general way, is this: Would any person with a CV consisting of 11-12 publications be considered qualified to be president of Harvard University, or would a higher academic standard be invoked?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 17:19 last edited by
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                                  I think the publications could be waived for a person of stature.

                                  How many pubs does Condi Rice have?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    3 Jan 2024, 17:19

                                    I think the publications could be waived for a person of stature.

                                    How many pubs does Condi Rice have?

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 18:25 last edited by
                                    #145

                                    @Jolly said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                                    How many pubs does Condi Rice have?

                                    Can't find her CV, yet.

                                    But Stanford's faculty page lists 5 books.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 18:42 last edited by
                                      #146

                                      The AP doing journalisming.

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        3 Jan 2024, 18:42

                                        The AP doing journalisming.

                                        IMG_0158.jpeg

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                                        kluurs
                                        wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 19:01 last edited by
                                        #147

                                        @George-K said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                                        The AP doing journalisming.

                                        IMG_0158.jpeg

                                        The demarcation between reporting and advocacy has never been perfect, but this is not in the blurry middle ground.

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                                        • G George K
                                          3 Jan 2024, 14:08

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                                          Take a bow, Mr Ackman.

                                          Ackman sort of explains:

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 3 Jan 2024, 20:00 last edited by
                                          #148

                                          @George-K said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                                          Take a bow, Mr Ackman.

                                          Ackman sort of explains:

                                          Take another bow, Mr Ackman.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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