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The SEC. It just means more.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    https://lsutigerswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/02/lsu-football-greg-sankey-discusses-sec-separating-ncaa/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #2

      Good idea.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        #3

        Wow.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
          #4

          This is just more of the same tension that gets created when you have a handful of exploitative professional sports leagues arbitrarily anchored to the higher education system.

          The tension is created by living out that absrurdity. It really doesn’t matter what the label’s acronym is.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #5

            How good is your alma mater's football or basketball team?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              How many pull-ups can you do?

              After such diversions I’m happy to get back to the thread.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                None, since they cracked my chest. How about you?

                BTW, your old school's sports teams were that bad?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  To answer the question (I had to look it up) the basketball team is ranked #4, far above each and every SEC team. The football team sucks this year.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Now can we talk about the weird incentives that derive from attaching professional sports leagues to colleges?

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      In a true sense, they're not professionals. The athletes are not paid by the school to play. The schools can't even give them money for a pizza and a beer.

                      The best players have tended to play for schools that give them the best shots at a pro career. Media exposure, training facilities, nutrition, etc. Hence, the domination of the SEC

                      What has changed significantly is NIL money.

                      The question morphs...Is NIL the mark of a professional athlete?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        None, since they cracked my chest. How about you?

                        BTW, your old school's sports teams were that bad?

                        jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @Jolly said in The SEC. It just means more.:

                        None, since they cracked my chest. How about you?

                        Didn’t mean to dodge the question. I could more two years after they cracked my chest than two years before.

                        I would struggle to get to ten, 18 months ago, often times giving up around 6-7. Then I tore my rotator cuff in June of 2022 and have been afraid to try.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          It's annoying watching student athletes make announcements about "entering the transfer portal" so they can play for other schools. No more school loyalty. NIL lets the athletes make money, which shifts lots of the priorities/focus. Then you have conferences that no longer make geographic/logical sense. It's becoming quite the mess. They should keep things simple.

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                            Jolly
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                            #13

                            They could have, but the schools got greedy, using an athlete's NIL to push merch.

                            Give Bush back his Heisman.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Copper
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                              #14

                              Drop the affiliation of football to colleges.

                              Just have a minor league, cut the schools out of the pay day.

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                                Jolly
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                                #15

                                Problem is, at a SEC school, especially LSU, Alabama, etc., football pays for a lot of the other sports. Especially women's sports and more obscure men's sports (golf, anyone?). And at a LSU, football also pays for some academics.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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