Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud
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Presumably. The setup is all there. I can’t say I know for sure everything that happens behind the scenes
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:48 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
I can’t say I know for sure everything that happens behind the scenes
Fair enough and, let's be honest, the current method where your ballot is sucked into the scanner at the polling place and sent <somewhere> and counted by <something/someone> already has a ton of trust and zero traceability involved.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:50 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
Same way they do in person. With the signature from your registration document.
So when I vote in person, I give my name and address and they look me up is a physical book. That book has a place for me to sign. Next to it is a copy of my signature from registration which they can match it to. In practice I’m not sure how carefully the little old ladies volunteering in my little village do that.
We don’t do voter ID here.
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@89th , different states do vote-by-mail differently, just like different states do in-person voting differently.
Oregon Vote-by-Mail:
https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/pages/voteinor.aspxNew Jersey Vote-by-Mail:
https://www.state.nj.us/state/elections/vote-by-mail.shtmlColorado Vote-by-Mail:
https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/FAQs/mailBallotsFAQ.htmlFlorida Vote-by-Mail:
https://dos.myflorida.com/elections/for-voters/voting/vote-by-mail/Do a web search to see how your state's vote-by-mail system works. Assuming you want to vote and you want your vote to count, then getting your research done early and complete whatever procedural steps your state requires early will only help.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:50 last edited by@Axtremus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
Assuming you want to vote and you want your vote to count, then getting your research done early and complete whatever procedural steps your state requires early will only help.
If there's one thing this pandemic has shown, it's how Americans know how to do their research and take responsible, prudent actions.
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The fact that Trump was elected is so much more significant than that he loses. Don’t ever forget that chortlers.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 02:56 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Loki said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
The fact that Trump was elected is so much more significant than that he loses. Don’t ever forget that chortlers.
Who's chortling? I was actually being serious. I know, I know, it's hard to countenance such a thing. As far as I can tell he's spent his entire life acting like a spoilt little shit.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 03:53 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
Same way they do in person. With the signature from your registration document.
So, squads of hobbits are peering through looking glasses, squinting their eyes in the flickering fluorescent light of some courthouse basement, looking for loops and lines?
Sure, Mac. Sure.
They're going to get those ballots, open them, stack them and feed them through a counting machine as fast as they can. I doubt anybody takes time to double-check a signature...
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 03:56 last edited by
lol. Hobbits with veto power over a ballot because the feng shui of the signature as compared to the one on record doesn't strike their fancy. What could go wrong?
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 04:44 last edited by
Please do not confuse absentee voting with mail in voting. They are two completely different things, and have nothing g at all in common with each other.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 10:58 last edited by
Absentee ballots are a subset of mail in ballots. The logistical and security concerns are identical.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 11:35 last edited by
Soooo in Virginia, I just looked it up (thanks @Axtremus ), the Mail-In process is just the absentee process. Check this out:
- Have to register to vote absentee by Oct 13
- Have to have your ballot be RECEIVED by Election Day (not postmarked). Note that 4,000 votes didn’t count during the primaries because they were received too late.
- Virginia did change the requirement that you don’t need an approved reason to vote absentee.
This is interesting, I bet LOTS of folks won’t realize they need to register almost a month before the election.
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Absentee ballots are a subset of mail in ballots. The logistical and security concerns are identical.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 12:14 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
Absentee ballots are a subset of mail in ballots. The logistical and security concerns are identical.
Early voting is done here in person. You go to the courthouse or other designated government building, show your ID, and vote.
Taking a few paper clips and a rubber band or two, Uncle Earl said, I can make them voting machines sing Home Sweet Home. Shucks, back in college, I rigged an election on a voting machine. So, we down here are quite aware of how elections can be rigged, and I can see lots of possibilities with mail-in ballots.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 15:18 last edited by
Federalist Society co-founder says Trump’s tweet about postponing the election is grounds for ‘immediate impeachment’
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federalist-trump-tweet-election-delay-impeachment
Federalist Society co-founder Stephen Calabresi said that President Trump’s tweet suggesting to postpone the election is “fascistic” and “grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment.”
“Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist,” Calabresi wrote in an op-ed for the New York Times. “But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.”
Calabresi noted that he has voted Republican in every presidential election since 1980, including for Trump in 2016. He said he had defended the president against the Mueller investigation and against the impeachment investigation.
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Federalist Society co-founder says Trump’s tweet about postponing the election is grounds for ‘immediate impeachment’
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federalist-trump-tweet-election-delay-impeachment
Federalist Society co-founder Stephen Calabresi said that President Trump’s tweet suggesting to postpone the election is “fascistic” and “grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment.”
“Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist,” Calabresi wrote in an op-ed for the New York Times. “But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.”
Calabresi noted that he has voted Republican in every presidential election since 1980, including for Trump in 2016. He said he had defended the president against the Mueller investigation and against the impeachment investigation.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 15:42 last edited byI get the Federalist Society point but show me where asking a question is grounds for impeachment. I would like to see what law is being referenced.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 15:49 last edited by
I'm getting sick of this nonstop attempt to impeach Trump. I have a better idea - impeach all the shit for brains democrats. This nation would be better off if every damned democrat all the way down to dog catcher was kicked out of the country.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 15:50 last edited by
Every time Trump acts like a knobhead, somebody says he should be impeached. So basically every day. It's getting a little tiresome.
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I get the Federalist Society point but show me where asking a question is grounds for impeachment. I would like to see what law is being referenced.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 15:51 last edited by@Loki said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
I get the Federalist Society point but show me where asking a question is grounds for impeachment. I would like to see what law is being referenced.
Right? It's really an odd comment.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 16:08 last edited by
Sorry to ruin the parade, he has already been impeached. What they want is for him to be removed from office.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 16:32 last edited by
Sorry, but you are incorrect. He has NOT been impeached. There was a vote on the matter, and it didn't pass.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 16:38 last edited by taiwan_girl
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Every time Trump acts like a knobhead, somebody says he should be impeached. So basically every day. It's getting a little tiresome.
wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 16:40 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:
Every time Trump acts like a knobhead, somebody says he should be impeached. So basically every day. It's getting a little tiresome.
The man simply asked a question. And the question is a valid one. Already, one district in (I think) New York has a fucked up mess on their hands because of mail in voting. They sent the ballots out with prepaid postage envelopes. The post office doesn't date stamp / cancel prepaid postage envelopes. Now you have an all democrat cast all the way up to the governor fighting over which of two democrats won their primary because they have no way of knowing which ballots arrived on time and which did not, and they'll be going into the general election with absolutely no way of knowing which democrat won the primary.
The knobheads are fucking democrats and you brain dead Trump bashers.
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wrote on 31 Jul 2020, 16:41 last edited by Doctor Phibes
I'll have you know that I'm not a knobhead. I'm a highly respected member of this group!