The Relic of St. Jude
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Cant really tell from the picture. What is it? Blood? Bones? Something else?
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It’s part of his arm bones. It’s kind of a big deal that it’s here. It lives in the Vatican. It’s being shown around the US. It was in my town one day and the next day went to a church in the city.
@jon-nyc said in The Relic of St. Jude:
It was in my town one day and the next day went to a church in the city.
Sort of like the Stanley Cup, eh?
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I'm Catholic but don't place a particularly high/venerable level on the Saints or even Mary. I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>. I think the historical aspect is cool, but when the focus begins to be shifted from God/Jesus, it becomes a distraction.
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I'm Catholic but don't place a particularly high/venerable level on the Saints or even Mary. I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>. I think the historical aspect is cool, but when the focus begins to be shifted from God/Jesus, it becomes a distraction.
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>.
You'd probably be a
goodreasonable LCMS Lutrin'."Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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I'm Catholic but don't place a particularly high/venerable level on the Saints or even Mary. I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>. I think the historical aspect is cool, but when the focus begins to be shifted from God/Jesus, it becomes a distraction.
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
I'm Catholic but don't place a particularly high/venerable level on the Saints or even Mary. I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>. I think the historical aspect is cool, but when the focus begins to be shifted from God/Jesus, it becomes a distraction.
I was raised Catholic. As a child I thought all these relics were a great esoteric mystery. Now I think they’re a lot more than just a little bit, creepy.
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I think they are fascinating from an historical point of view. I don’t imagine any of them date back to apostolic times, I imagine they were ‘discovered’ after Rome became Christian. Still, that’s deeply historic in any objective read.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>.
You'd probably be a
goodreasonable LCMS Lutrin'.@George-K said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>.
You'd probably be a
goodreasonable LCMS Lutrin'.Makes sense. I grew up non-denominational (biblical, as I would say), and attended an evangelical free church. Always wanted to learn about the various denominations after college and "pick" one. It helped that my girlfriend and fiancee (and now wife) was Catholic, so I looked into it hard. Went to RCIA and learned enough about the history, liturgy, structure, symbolism, etc... I really enjoyed those aspects and didn't have an objection with converting to the Catholic branch of the Christian tree, and it certainly made our marriage/kids aspect smoother. I knew I would never place the emphasis on Mary/Saints the way some did in the Church, but I get why they do. It comes from a good place.
Woof, all that being said, I was looking at Anglican, Presbyterian, and Lutheran as well. The Lutheran would've made lucky sense now that I live in the land of Scandinavian immigrants and saunas.
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I think they are fascinating from an historical point of view. I don’t imagine any of them date back to apostolic times, I imagine they were ‘discovered’ after Rome became Christian. Still, that’s deeply historic in any objective read.
@jon-nyc said in The Relic of St. Jude:
I think they are fascinating from an historical point of view. I don’t imagine any of them date back to apostolic times, I imagine they were ‘discovered’ after Rome became Christian. Still, that’s deeply historic in any objective read.
Don’t get me wrong, I get that and agree they are of tremendous historical value. As historical artefacts I am grateful that they are in the care and preservation of the RC Church for all to view. I doubt that a better custodian can be found.
It is the only religious contemplation and veneration of a human body part that I find creepy, despite the fact that I also understand and accept that it is not in any way idolatry on the part of the faithful. That instilled understanding is perhaps why apostates such myself mirthfully describe ourselves as recovering Catholics. Like Hotel California, a Catholic can check out but never quite leave.
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Creepy relic.
I’ve a story. I was helping care for a kid on ECMO in Alabama years back and we had to change part of the bed near the kid’s head. Lots of junk tubes, gauze, syringes, and this tiny cotton baggy thing we had to remove or reposition. So we were doing this. Suddenly I hear nurse Debbie (from Auburn) cry out , “Whoa, wait, WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?!?”, and I stop thinking I did something critically wrong. I say, “What, WHAT??” She points at the baggy, and says, “You can’t touch that. He’s Catholic. Those are the bones of Moses!!” I nearly split my gut suppressing my laughter. But Debbie was dead serious (and probably Baptist). So told her I was Catholic, recited out my birth and confirmation names, and said it was okay to temporarily move the baggy. I told her we’d say a special prayer for the Bones of Moses when we put it back on the bed. -
@George-K said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>.
You'd probably be a
goodreasonable LCMS Lutrin'.Makes sense. I grew up non-denominational (biblical, as I would say), and attended an evangelical free church. Always wanted to learn about the various denominations after college and "pick" one. It helped that my girlfriend and fiancee (and now wife) was Catholic, so I looked into it hard. Went to RCIA and learned enough about the history, liturgy, structure, symbolism, etc... I really enjoyed those aspects and didn't have an objection with converting to the Catholic branch of the Christian tree, and it certainly made our marriage/kids aspect smoother. I knew I would never place the emphasis on Mary/Saints the way some did in the Church, but I get why they do. It comes from a good place.
Woof, all that being said, I was looking at Anglican, Presbyterian, and Lutheran as well. The Lutheran would've made lucky sense now that I live in the land of Scandinavian immigrants and saunas.
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@George-K said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>.
You'd probably be a
goodreasonable LCMS Lutrin'.Makes sense. I grew up non-denominational (biblical, as I would say), and attended an evangelical free church. Always wanted to learn about the various denominations after college and "pick" one. It helped that my girlfriend and fiancee (and now wife) was Catholic, so I looked into it hard. Went to RCIA and learned enough about the history, liturgy, structure, symbolism, etc... I really enjoyed those aspects and didn't have an objection with converting to the Catholic branch of the Christian tree, and it certainly made our marriage/kids aspect smoother. I knew I would never place the emphasis on Mary/Saints the way some did in the Church, but I get why they do. It comes from a good place.
Woof, all that being said, I was looking at Anglican, Presbyterian, and Lutheran as well. The Lutheran would've made lucky sense now that I live in the land of Scandinavian immigrants and saunas.
Priesthood of the believer.
Look that one up when you're bored.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@George-K said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>.
You'd probably be a
goodreasonable LCMS Lutrin'.Makes sense. I grew up non-denominational (biblical, as I would say), and attended an evangelical free church. Always wanted to learn about the various denominations after college and "pick" one. It helped that my girlfriend and fiancee (and now wife) was Catholic, so I looked into it hard. Went to RCIA and learned enough about the history, liturgy, structure, symbolism, etc... I really enjoyed those aspects and didn't have an objection with converting to the Catholic branch of the Christian tree, and it certainly made our marriage/kids aspect smoother. I knew I would never place the emphasis on Mary/Saints the way some did in the Church, but I get why they do. It comes from a good place.
Woof, all that being said, I was looking at Anglican, Presbyterian, and Lutheran as well. The Lutheran would've made lucky sense now that I live in the land of Scandinavian immigrants and saunas.
Priesthood of the believer.
Look that one up when you're bored.
@Jolly said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@George-K said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>.
You'd probably be a
goodreasonable LCMS Lutrin'.Makes sense. I grew up non-denominational (biblical, as I would say), and attended an evangelical free church. Always wanted to learn about the various denominations after college and "pick" one. It helped that my girlfriend and fiancee (and now wife) was Catholic, so I looked into it hard. Went to RCIA and learned enough about the history, liturgy, structure, symbolism, etc... I really enjoyed those aspects and didn't have an objection with converting to the Catholic branch of the Christian tree, and it certainly made our marriage/kids aspect smoother. I knew I would never place the emphasis on Mary/Saints the way some did in the Church, but I get why they do. It comes from a good place.
Woof, all that being said, I was looking at Anglican, Presbyterian, and Lutheran as well. The Lutheran would've made lucky sense now that I live in the land of Scandinavian immigrants and saunas.
Priesthood of the believer.
Look that one up when you're bored.
Makes sense. I see praying to saints as the same as asking you Jolly as a brother in Christ to pray for me. But at the end of the day, we all have a direct connection to the Big Guy.
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@Jolly said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@George-K said in The Relic of St. Jude:
@89th said in The Relic of St. Jude:
I guess that makes me <insert denomination here>.
You'd probably be a
goodreasonable LCMS Lutrin'.Makes sense. I grew up non-denominational (biblical, as I would say), and attended an evangelical free church. Always wanted to learn about the various denominations after college and "pick" one. It helped that my girlfriend and fiancee (and now wife) was Catholic, so I looked into it hard. Went to RCIA and learned enough about the history, liturgy, structure, symbolism, etc... I really enjoyed those aspects and didn't have an objection with converting to the Catholic branch of the Christian tree, and it certainly made our marriage/kids aspect smoother. I knew I would never place the emphasis on Mary/Saints the way some did in the Church, but I get why they do. It comes from a good place.
Woof, all that being said, I was looking at Anglican, Presbyterian, and Lutheran as well. The Lutheran would've made lucky sense now that I live in the land of Scandinavian immigrants and saunas.
Priesthood of the believer.
Look that one up when you're bored.
Makes sense. I see praying to saints as the same as asking you Jolly as a brother in Christ to pray for me. But at the end of the day, we all have a direct connection to the Big Guy.
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Creepy relic.
I’ve a story. I was helping care for a kid on ECMO in Alabama years back and we had to change part of the bed near the kid’s head. Lots of junk tubes, gauze, syringes, and this tiny cotton baggy thing we had to remove or reposition. So we were doing this. Suddenly I hear nurse Debbie (from Auburn) cry out , “Whoa, wait, WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?!?”, and I stop thinking I did something critically wrong. I say, “What, WHAT??” She points at the baggy, and says, “You can’t touch that. He’s Catholic. Those are the bones of Moses!!” I nearly split my gut suppressing my laughter. But Debbie was dead serious (and probably Baptist). So told her I was Catholic, recited out my birth and confirmation names, and said it was okay to temporarily move the baggy. I told her we’d say a special prayer for the Bones of Moses when we put it back on the bed.
